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The Geocities Torrent (~1TB of awesomeness)

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Re: The Geocities Torrent (~1TB of awesomeness)

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I'm actually sad that I didn't put my first website on geocities now! I had my own web hosting from my ISP, so I had a fabulously easy to remember url of "homepages.tig.com.au/~liedra" which was lost as soon as my family upgraded to a cable connection from dialup. And no, archive.org didn't manage to catch it :( I think it had a page devoted to Nick Cave and some terrible poetry! Go go websites of a 17 year old! :)

The interesting thing was that at the time my friends and I (who had ISP-based homepages) looked down on Geocities because it was "lame" comparatively. Now I'm sad that I don't have any records of that original page (possibly on an ancient CD-R though? but most of those early ones have degraded now...)

Re: The Geocities Torrent (~1TB of awesomeness)

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I'm actually sad that I didn't put my first website on geocities now! I had my own web hosting from my ISP, so I had a fabulously easy to remember url of "homepages.tig.com.au/~liedra" which was lost as soon as my family upgraded to a cable connection from dialup. And no, archive.org didn't manage to catch it :( I think it had a page devoted to Nick Cave and some terrible poetry! Go go websites of a 17 year old! :) T…

My first pages were on my ISP which offered a subdomain! I paid £2 a month extra (on top of call charges) for the privelige. My friends thought I was crazy but I showed them when that very same subdomain impressed someone enough to give me a web dev job ("You have a subdomain? Impressive").

I also looked down on geocities/angelfire sites and I still think I got the better deal out of it - my first stuff was too embarrassing to live on for eternity in the depths of a torrent.

Re: The Geocities Torrent (~1TB of awesomeness)

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Sounds like a great excuse to test those "Unlimited Diskspace!" and "Unlimited Bandwidth!" claims of shared providers.

they don't work, the second you start getting any serious traffic you get a warning. I had a video(flash movie) that got popular, and they sent me a warning after only 2 gigs of bandwidth.

Granted those 2 gigs were used up in something like 5 minutes, but never the less..you'd think they'd give you a little more to play with.

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I like the concept of "Digital Heritage" as they call it. I think preserving digital heritage may become an important issue in the next few years. As the world begins to recognize the historic legacy of the web, it may someday become as important as preserving physical historical landmarks. Its time to accept that the internet may be the greatest legacy 21st century civilization leaves behind. It likely isn't going a…

Charles Stross has an excellent novel, "Glasshouse", a major plot point of which is that due to shoddy digital preservation practices, far-future historians know virtually nothing about ≈1950 through ≈2050 or so. What little they know is pieced together from fragmentary bits and pieces of evidence, with results that are at turns hilarious and horrifying when "put into practice" by historical re-enactors. Kind of remi…

Historians learn most about ancient societies by digging through their trash. We have left more trash that takes ages to degrade than all prior societies put together.

Only if they get serious about recycling, history will be at stake.

Re: The Geocities Torrent (~1TB of awesomeness)

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Wow. This site is amazing. Tons of gems: http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/

Jason Scott is a pretty cool dude; random story: He was doing the JetBlue unlimited month of travel and showed up in Pittsburgh a few weeks ago to talk at CMU. He was giving a talk at Seton Hill college the next day (about 45 mins away), and posted on twitter looking for a ride. A friend of mine forwarded the tweet to me, and I got in touch with Jason and ended up giving him a ride the next day. I had very little clue who he was before I met him, but he gave me a copy of Get Lamp and some good discussion in return.

Re: The Geocities Torrent (~1TB of awesomeness)

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I copied my content from Geocities to another provider and then on to my own site (eventually). I'm sure I'm not alone. Very little of that content is still live anywhere but there is a little I think. Also, why do you get to be the arbiter of whether others content can be allowed to disappear or not? If I own the copyright then it's within my rights to have all copies destroyed, for example, you secretly (as you've…

Not to toot my own horn here, but let me just give you one sample of the kind of email I get about this project, I'll leave you to judge the rest of them by this single one (it just happens to be the last one and more in this vein would be excessive and embarrassing): -- I don't know who you are, but I just want say you are an angel. I thought I had laid the very first website I ever built on geocities to rest, and w…

>I'm not going to argue morality here with you any further, you apparently have a bee up your bonnet about this, but as they say, no good deed goes unpunished, there is no reason why this would be an exception.

I'm arguing the application of copyright law (I'm not for the law as it stands incidentally) and for the moral rights of producers of copyright law. You appear to be arguing that it's fine to break the law because how you do it makes some people happy. The same rationale (at a different scale) makes speeding OK for teenagers if it impresses their mates and they're lucky enough not to have killed anyone yet.

The problem is that if we allow what you've done (which I don't dislike, indeed I'd consider myself an admirer in general of what I've seen of your work) for anyone then we allow copying other's blog posts adding adverts and putting them on one's own website, we allow copying books that are still in copyright and republishing them, etc..

It's a technicality but important to the case in point IMO. The email from webmistress is grateful for you saving her from not having properly backed up her work, not from having infringed copyright. If you now copy her current website and display it as your own with ads, will she be happy? I'd warrant no, not until the point at which she deletes it all by accident and comes to you because she hasn't backed up. Is this an argument against copyright, probably, not a great one but still it is one.

The fact that you're hearing the positive results is going to be largely selection bias.

If you've bothered reading then thanks for your responses and for not going ad hominem on my ass.

Peace,

pbhj

Re: The Geocities Torrent (~1TB of awesomeness)

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The AwesomenessReminder banner ads are perfect , though. Completely fit the style and the era.

Yes, I put them up there as a joke initially because Zachary came up with his animated gifs but then I thought oh, what the heck and left them up. I'm sure he's not making much money of them - if any - but it looked like a perfect fit. His new site looks much better actually: http://www.awesomenessreminders.com/

>I'm sure he's not making much money of[f] them - if any - but it looked like a perfect fit.

I think you're being disingenuous here. You've argued that you have a right to the content and to put your ads on it so why bother trying to spin that action as a minor benefit.

If it's no benefit then save yourself and everyone else the bandwidth and remove the adframe. If it is a benefit then keep it and stand by your conviction that that is justified.

PS: for your mate, the .logo {padding-left: } looks to be about 7px too much so it doesn't align with "Bring happiness [...]" strapline and the body text. I'm using FF3.6.11 on Kubuntu.

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I imagine at least somebody will download to a server and host them all there. Might grab a new 1TB drive into one of my servers and do it if I'm bored enough...

I've been doing that for the last 12 months, and the collection is significantly larger than that. http://www.reocities.com/

are you worried about copyright infringement suits?
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