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Re: Web.dev by Google

#62

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Google's pagespeed service is hot garbage. You can do things that make the page load significantly slower and get a perfect score than if you had a lower pagespeed score with a much faster page load. I also find it strange how I can get an A on every other page speed service, including GTMetrix, but get an F on Google's tes(s). Totally useless.

Meh, these tests are just good ways to find obvious problems with your site. Fixating on the overall score seems like an indication of a different problem. For example, you can't change the caching behavior of google-analytics.js, and it's usually intractable to split apart your CSS to optimize for above-the-fold content. Oh well, you didn't get a perfect score. Stay practical.

Try selling that to a client that keeps using the test against a site that is A rated everywhere else because Google's brand has fooled them into thinking a perfect score means better SEO.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#63

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Google's pagespeed service is hot garbage. You can do things that make the page load significantly slower and get a perfect score than if you had a lower pagespeed score with a much faster page load. I also find it strange how I can get an A on every other page speed service, including GTMetrix, but get an F on Google's tes(s). Totally useless.

Google Pagespeed once recommended that I enable gzip compression on an embedded Google map. https://johnrockefeller.net/google-pagespeed-_/

Most performance profilers will penalize you for embedding Google Analytics and Google Fonts because they have poor caching settings. What's so important about those resources that they can't be cached for longer periods?

Re: Web.dev by Google

#64
Wow. From the people that have been botching the web for 20 years...

I mean it's only recently that they've started getting their things together. And arguably their flat design isn't always usable. Now let's talk speed....

Re: Web.dev by Google

#65
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I just ran their audit to https://mail.google.com , you guys (googlers) need to speed up your websites first, Gmail is terrible slow lately, just saying...

You think gmail is slow, try the new adwords interface.

Or the g suite admin console. Cripes, it's insanely frustrating to use.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#66

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Meh, these tests are just good ways to find obvious problems with your site. Fixating on the overall score seems like an indication of a different problem. For example, you can't change the caching behavior of google-analytics.js, and it's usually intractable to split apart your CSS to optimize for above-the-fold content. Oh well, you didn't get a perfect score. Stay practical.

Try selling that to a client that keeps using the test against a site that is A rated everywhere else because Google's brand has fooled them into thinking a perfect score means better SEO.

True. This is like when movie studios start obsessing about the Metacritic ranking on their movies instead of focusing on the quality of the movies.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#67

This is powered by Google Lighthouse, with the benefit of it being done via a web UI instead of a Dev Tools Audit. Which is both good and bad. Good because Lighthouse has some reasonable best practices to follow, and a few good performance timings, so lowering the barriers of entry is nice. Bad because many of Lighthouses best practices aren't always applicable (our major media customers constantly say "stop telling…

Oh god that Service Worker bs. It's like how Yahoo's performance profiler penalized you for not using a CDN on a single page site.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#68

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Google Pagespeed once recommended that I enable gzip compression on an embedded Google map. https://johnrockefeller.net/google-pagespeed-_/

Most performance profilers will penalize you for embedding Google Analytics and Google Fonts because they have poor caching settings. What's so important about those resources that they can't be cached for longer periods?

tracking

Re: Web.dev by Google

#69

I just ran their audit to https://mail.google.com , you guys (googlers) need to speed up your websites first, Gmail is terrible slow lately, just saying...

Recent Ad Words user here. It is quite possibly the worst application I've used in years. I get that they offer a LOT of products and that the nature of the business is complicated. But, man, was everything about that process awful. And the UI is unbearably slow.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#70

Getting Chrome SSL warnings on both the OP link and https://get.dev/ Doesn't really evoke confidence, if this is a Google initiative. Can someone post a short precis as to what this is about for those of us who cannot visit the URLs? UPDATE: Apologies - My bad, not Google's fault. I had a local Valet/NGINX redirect for local .dev domains setup for Laravel development projects that was causing the issue.

I'm getting a Service Not Found on Firefox.
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