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Re: Web.dev by Google

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Post by crunchlibrarian »

yandrypozo wrote: post #18

I just ran their audit to https://mail.google.com , you guys (googlers) need to speed up your websites first, Gmail is terrible slow lately, just saying...

When Gmail first came out I was amazed at how fast it was, so much faster than the native outlook client I used at the time, wow! How is that even possible in javascript!

Now gmail is slower than most any other website I use regularly. Can't even refresh the inbox in less than three seconds.

I've noticed the same slower by a bit every year pattern with google maps too. I'm afraid to click anything when I have a map open because I know it might trigger a repaint which will cause me to sigh and switch to another tab while it chugs for a few seconds to accomplish this.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#32

Post by ripexz »

crooked-v wrote: post #22

I wonder how many things will break when .dev domains become broadly available.

They're already "broken" on Chrome for a few versions now, we switched all `.dev`s to `.localhost` in dev environments at my company.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#33

Post by wild_preference »

partiallypro wrote: post #23
yandrypozo wrote: post #18

I just ran their audit to https://mail.google.com , you guys (googlers) need to speed up your websites first, Gmail is terrible slow lately, just saying...

Google's pagespeed service is hot garbage. You can do things that make the page load significantly slower and get a perfect score than if you had a lower pagespeed score with a much faster page load. I also find it strange how I can get an A on every other page speed service, including GTMetrix, but get an F on Google's tes(s). Totally useless.

Meh, these tests are just good ways to find obvious problems with your site.

Fixating on the overall score seems like an indication of a different problem.

For example, you can't change the caching behavior of google-analytics.js, and it's usually intractable to split apart your CSS to optimize for above-the-fold content. Oh well, you didn't get a perfect score. Stay practical.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#34

Post by bhauer »

tinyvm wrote: post #28

Google is really pushing Hard on PWA. My biggest concern is the support outside of chrome. While other browsers tend to come on pair with chrome in terms of features , chrome right now is the only one which supports PWA as "native" app.. Windows announced support for PWA natively a while ago [0] but there has been no news since then. On Apple side it's silence radio...iOS have some support but for Mac it seems unlike…

FWIW, the official Twitter desktop app for Windows 10 is a PWA and it works great (well, as well as any official Twitter app has worked in my assessment; not as well as third-party apps from their hey-day, but that's a different story).

I also use the Starbucks PWA (app.starbucks.com) and it mostly works well. Again, it seems to work as well as their native apps.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#35

Post by ocdtrekkie »

crunchlibrarian wrote: post #31
yandrypozo wrote: post #18

I just ran their audit to https://mail.google.com , you guys (googlers) need to speed up your websites first, Gmail is terrible slow lately, just saying...

When Gmail first came out I was amazed at how fast it was, so much faster than the native outlook client I used at the time, wow! How is that even possible in javascript! Now gmail is slower than most any other website I use regularly. Can't even refresh the inbox in less than three seconds. I've noticed the same slower by a bit every year pattern with google maps too. I'm afraid to click anything when I have a map o…

The difference in performance between Fastmail and the new Gmail interface right now is freaking stunning. I still load Gmail every few days to see if I have email there, and it's like waiting for Windows 98 to boot.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#36

Post by geerlingguy »

ripexz wrote: post #32
crooked-v wrote: post #22

I wonder how many things will break when .dev domains become broadly available.

They're already "broken" on Chrome for a few versions now, we switched all `.dev`s to `.localhost` in dev environments at my company.

I've switched all my stuff to .test, since that domain doesn't cause as many weird issues with some routers, proxies, OS networking bugs, dumb regex, etc.

Also, .test is reserved for testing/local forever, so it won't suffer the same fate as .dev.

Re: Web.dev by Google

#37

Post by robdodson »

weinzierl wrote: post #15

It only accepts https URLs. Lighthouse in the DevTools can do both, http and https.

Yep that's our mistake (one of the web.dev devs). We auto added https to every URL. Oops! Gonna fix that as soon as we are out of our code freeze

Re: Web.dev by Google

#38

Post by robdodson »

paulddraper wrote: post #13

Will someone please elucidate which Google resources are still relevant? * https://web.dev/ * https://developers.google.com/speed/ * https://developers.google.com/web/ (including https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/ )

Heyo! One of the web.dev devs here. The new web.dev site is an experiment from our team to see if we can improve the interactivity of our docs. We link to developers.google.com/web in a number of places. Over time, if folks seem to enjoy the web.dev model, we may explore moving more of our docs over there. But for now it's just a fun experiment

Re: Web.dev by Google

#39

Post by joobus »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #35
crunchlibrarian wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Gmail first came out I was amazed at how fast it was, so much faster than the native outlook client I used at the time, wow! How is that even possible in javascript! Now gmail is slower than most any other website I use regularly. Can't even refresh the inbox in less than three seconds. I've noticed the same slower by a bit every year pattern with google maps too. I'm afraid to click anything when I have a map o…

The difference in performance between Fastmail and the new Gmail interface right now is freaking stunning. I still load Gmail every few days to see if I have email there, and it's like waiting for Windows 98 to boot.

Setup forwarding in Gmail to send to a fastmail address. Problem solved.
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