Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
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Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#2There is something fundamentally wrong with a society that punishes people for their views
Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#3There is something fundamentally wrong with a society that punishes people for their views
The fact that you were downvoted for that is sad.
I want to believe that HN isn’t “so Reddit” as to not see the issue here and can realize that this type of censorship / thought-concealment can turn around on them very quickly... but again, downvotes...
Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#4There is something fundamentally wrong with a society that punishes people for their views
The fact that you were downvoted for that is sad. I want to believe that HN isn’t “so Reddit” as to not see the issue here and can realize that this type of censorship / thought-concealment can turn around on them very quickly... but again, downvotes...
I think the downvotes were because "society punishing people for their views" doesn't really apply to a PR move made by a non-governmental corporation.
Also, sometimes "punishment" (Luckey got $100M, so hard to call this a punishment) is positive.
It's how some societies keep dangerous views, like racism or the support of slavery, from turning into harmful actions.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#5Aren't political views a protected class in California? This could turn into a lawsuit against Facebook.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#6Aren't political views a protected class in California? This could turn into a lawsuit against Facebook.
Wrongful termination is hard to prove and he'd need to coöperate. He probably got paid $$$$$$ to do no such thing, and he agreed fully aware of that.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#7There is something fundamentally wrong with a society that punishes people for their views
This comment is bad in many ways. FB is a people company and seeks to employ those who support its mission and beliefs.
Ex. If a person is publicly known to believe in eugenics and they are in a position where the company could be adversely affected by the continued employment of that person then it is more than in the interest to remove association with said person.
I'd be surprised if you've never had to stop associating with people who beliefs you did not share at all.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#8There is something fundamentally wrong with a society that punishes people for their views
This comment is bad in many ways. FB is a people company and seeks to employ those who support its mission and beliefs. Ex. If a person is publicly known to believe in eugenics and they are in a position where the company could be adversely affected by the continued employment of that person then it is more than in the interest to remove association with said person. I'd be surprised if you've never had to stop assoc…
> I'd be surprised if you've
> never had to stop associating
> with people who beliefs you
> did not share at all.
You can disagree with someone and still be friends, enjoy a conversation, or have other things in common. Even about politics. Even about everything.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
This comment is bad in many ways. FB is a people company and seeks to employ those who support its mission and beliefs. Ex. If a person is publicly known to believe in eugenics and they are in a position where the company could be adversely affected by the continued employment of that person then it is more than in the interest to remove association with said person. I'd be surprised if you've never had to stop assoc…
> I'd be surprised if you've > never had to stop associating > with people who beliefs you > did not share at all. That really isn't how fully functional adults act. You should be perfectly fine knowing someone who disagrees with you. In fact, that exposes you to variety of opinions (which is good good your critical thinking abilities). Why else talk to anyone at all, if you've just surrounded yourself with only yes…
This is exactly the kind of comment I was trying to prevent with the "at all" and your image being adversely affected by association with the other. Please look at the comment in the whole context and not pick the parts that make it look unreasonable.
There are always things that people disagree on, but they are not going to adversely affect you because of their belief. I can be an omnivore and another can choose to be vegan, but I would not disassociate only on that.
Re: Mark Zuckerberg pressured a Facebook executive to conceal his support of Trump
#10There is something fundamentally wrong with a society that punishes people for their views
Freedom of association for employers and co-workers is not punishment.
I should absolutely be able to be free to not associate with or choose not to work with racists or people who get ugly tattoos or people who listen to Linkin Park or any other adult decision they undertake freely. Being able to decide the types of people I want to be around is my and everyone else’s right.
Discrimination based on built-in traits is bad (and stupid), such as skin color or sex or national origin, but voluntary choices undertaken by an adult (e.g. a decision to write the service in PHP, or to join the KKK, or to take up arms against strangers for pay, or to worship the god of Abraham) can and should be actively used to separate people into different groups that one prefers or avoids.