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Re: Building iPad Pro features in Swift

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Cool hardware, but there's no way I could justify the price to myself with the limited functionality of iOS as it stands today. A lot Apple tech writers/podcasters keep saying "just wait for iOS 13!", but the earliest a developer is going to see iOS 13 is 6 months from now at WWDC, the earliest the general public will get any additional functionality is 11 months from now. That's a LONG wait to see if any changes will be made to make these capable of doing real work for all but artistic professionals.

Re: Building iPad Pro features in Swift

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I can imagine that Apple is ready to release an OS for the iPad with the full functionality (file system, mouse & cursor) and would do so in the event of the more expensive and port-lacking new Air undersells. Wouldn't surprise me if they had it ready as a backup plan, especially seeing the success of tablet computing with the MS Surface.

Re: Building iPad Pro features in Swift

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Cool hardware, but there's no way I could justify the price to myself with the limited functionality of iOS as it stands today. A lot Apple tech writers/podcasters keep saying "just wait for iOS 13!", but the earliest a developer is going to see iOS 13 is 6 months from now at WWDC, the earliest the general public will get any additional functionality is 11 months from now. That's a LONG wait to see if any changes wil…

I think given the specifications of these devices, the pricing, while definitely high, is not completely unreasonable for what the hardware can do - these iPads do things no currently shipping Mac notebook can - 120hz refresh, 240hz touch/pen tracking, FaceID, performance in similar ballpark to a $3k MacBook Pro while passively cooled (!) etc etc.

It’s just such a shame iOS isn’t quite ready yet to provide the kind of computing experience the hardware is clearly capable enough to deliver. If this is going to be priced like a macOS machine, it needs to offer a reasonable set of Mac style functionality - for me this means proper multi-user support so my family can all use the device with their own accounts and services and ideally some kind of windowing model for the OS to better handle multi-tasking.

iOS will need to answer a lot of questions in the next few years that it has so far steadfastly avoided. Apple bragged how these iPads can drive 5k monitors via an Xbox one S performance class GPU, but without indirect input methods (e.g. a mouse) this feature is really not much use for anything other than display mirroring. Today I only ever use video out on iOS devices for occasional video playback on TVs, I suspect I’m not alone in this.

iOS will likely either need to support a mouse or Apple will have to create some kind of standard for multi-touch external monitors that can allow iOS application input via touch on the external display if professional class workflows using multiple monitors on iOS is ever going to be a mainstream thing the way it is on the Mac.

Re: Building iPad Pro features in Swift

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post #5

Cool hardware, but there's no way I could justify the price to myself with the limited functionality of iOS as it stands today. A lot Apple tech writers/podcasters keep saying "just wait for iOS 13!", but the earliest a developer is going to see iOS 13 is 6 months from now at WWDC, the earliest the general public will get any additional functionality is 11 months from now. That's a LONG wait to see if any changes wil…

I think given the specifications of these devices, the pricing, while definitely high, is not completely unreasonable for what the hardware can do - these iPads do things no currently shipping Mac notebook can - 120hz refresh, 240hz touch/pen tracking, FaceID, performance in similar ballpark to a $3k MacBook Pro while passively cooled (!) etc etc. It’s just such a shame iOS isn’t quite ready yet to provide the kind o…

I'd be surprised if Apple ever does more than the current two-window model. A multi-user feature would certainly be nice though.

I think iOS is mostly fine. I don't think it's supposed to be a macOS replacement. There are some things a Mac is better for and other things an iPad is better for. Apple wants you to have both.

Re: Building iPad Pro features in Swift

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post #4

I can imagine that Apple is ready to release an OS for the iPad with the full functionality (file system, mouse & cursor) and would do so in the event of the more expensive and port-lacking new Air undersells. Wouldn't surprise me if they had it ready as a backup plan, especially seeing the success of tablet computing with the MS Surface.

> especially seeing the success of tablet computing with the MS Surface.

MS Surface sales last quarter: 602,000. iPad sales last quarter: 9.6 million. Even the Mac shifted over 5 million machines, all the more impressive when one considers that for much of that quarter staple models such as the Air were long, long overdue a refresh. The Surface sales figure presumably includes models that aren’t even tablets - the “Surface Laptop” is likely one of their best sellers I’d assume, given the attractive combination of price, design, specs and generally positive reviews.

While I too would love to see the features you suggest in iOS, Apple’s success in the tablet space is largely unprecedented for a computer manufacturer.

Re: Building iPad Pro features in Swift

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post #4

I can imagine that Apple is ready to release an OS for the iPad with the full functionality (file system, mouse & cursor) and would do so in the event of the more expensive and port-lacking new Air undersells. Wouldn't surprise me if they had it ready as a backup plan, especially seeing the success of tablet computing with the MS Surface.

I'd be interested in seeing what portion of total Surface revenue is from the Surface Book and the Surface Laptop, which are fairly traditional products compared to the tablets.

Re: Building iPad Pro features in Swift

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post #5

Cool hardware, but there's no way I could justify the price to myself with the limited functionality of iOS as it stands today. A lot Apple tech writers/podcasters keep saying "just wait for iOS 13!", but the earliest a developer is going to see iOS 13 is 6 months from now at WWDC, the earliest the general public will get any additional functionality is 11 months from now. That's a LONG wait to see if any changes wil…

I think given the specifications of these devices, the pricing, while definitely high, is not completely unreasonable for what the hardware can do - these iPads do things no currently shipping Mac notebook can - 120hz refresh, 240hz touch/pen tracking, FaceID, performance in similar ballpark to a $3k MacBook Pro while passively cooled (!) etc etc. It’s just such a shame iOS isn’t quite ready yet to provide the kind o…

I think given the specifications of these devices, the pricing, while definitely high, is not completely unreasonable for what the hardware can do - these iPads do things no currently shipping Mac notebook can - 120hz refresh, 240hz touch/pen tracking, FaceID, performance in similar ballpark to a $3k MacBook Pro while passively cooled (!) etc etc.

Totally agree, and if they had XCode or a decent native C# IDE on there I'd be at an Apple store right now forking over fist fulls of cash.

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