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Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by adetrest »

alan_wade wrote: post #114
thomasfedb wrote: post #23

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Fairly recent Cochrane review concludes: > ... we do not have sufficient high quality evidence to determine the effects of [omega-3] as a treatment for [major depression]. Our primary analyses suggest a small-to-modest, non-clinically beneficial effect ... compared to placebo; however the estimate is imprecise, and we judged the quality of the evidence on which this result is based to be low/very low. https://www.coc…

Can you recommend any books similar to Ultramind Solution but with more helpful info, in your opinion?

From the amazon page about ultramind: "Three-time New York Timesbestselling author Dr. Mark Hyman unveils his groundbreaking program that shows how we can fix our broken brains by healing our bodies first. Based on the emerging field of Functional Medicine, Dr. Hyman presents a simple six-week plan to restore health and gain an UltraMind, one that's highly focused, able to pay attention at will, has a strong memory, and leaves us feeling calm, confident, in control, and in good spirits."

That sounds like a bookful of BS and pseudo science.

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by sametmax »

koboll wrote: post #108

"Fine and Manson stressed that vitamin D and the omega-3 fatty acids found in fish oil are important nutrients, but the best way to get them is as part of a well-balanced diet. That includes eating fatty fish like sardines, tuna and salmon, and vitamin-D fortified cereals, milk, and orange juice." Ah, okay. So instead of taking supplemental Vitamin D, you should get it from natural sources, such as..... foods that ha…

It's espacially weird given that D vitamins can be produced easily in the human body as long as you expose the skin to the sun. It's in no way required to be provided from external sources.

A daily 15 minutes of exposure for the face and forarms is enough, and it contributes to recalibrate the mood and circadian rythm as well. It's free, healthy, and simple. Why would anyone recommand a supplement to people that have access to the sun is beyong me.

Omega 3 is harder, but still.

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by oe »

sametmax wrote: post #152
koboll wrote: post #108

"Fine and Manson stressed that vitamin D and the omega-3 fatty acids found in fish oil are important nutrients, but the best way to get them is as part of a well-balanced diet. That includes eating fatty fish like sardines, tuna and salmon, and vitamin-D fortified cereals, milk, and orange juice." Ah, okay. So instead of taking supplemental Vitamin D, you should get it from natural sources, such as..... foods that ha…

It's espacially weird given that D vitamins can be produced easily in the human body as long as you expose the skin to the sun. It's in no way required to be provided from external sources. A daily 15 minutes of exposure for the face and forarms is enough, and it contributes to recalibrate the mood and circadian rythm as well. It's free, healthy, and simple. Why would anyone recommand a supplement to people that have…

It’s not free or simple if the sun doesn’t shine where you live.

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by insertnickname »

ccozan wrote: post #146
gns24 wrote: post #133

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What dosage did you take?

I take for example a 5000mg poll every two days. But in winter I take it every day.

You probably mean 5000 IU, which is equivalent to 125 micrograms (of vitamin D).

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by glun »

oe wrote: post #153
sametmax wrote: post #152

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It's espacially weird given that D vitamins can be produced easily in the human body as long as you expose the skin to the sun. It's in no way required to be provided from external sources. A daily 15 minutes of exposure for the face and forarms is enough, and it contributes to recalibrate the mood and circadian rythm as well. It's free, healthy, and simple. Why would anyone recommand a supplement to people that have…

It’s not free or simple if the sun doesn’t shine where you live.

And even when it does shine the critical UVB spectrum may not pierce the athmosphere at a strong enough intensity for the body to produce vitamin D.

Re: Long-Awaited Study Results on Vitamin D and Fish Oil Supplements

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Post by perlpimp »

shard wrote: post #135
ztjio wrote: post #116

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I get your joke but the concern he expresses is only relevant to the Omega-3. In the case of vitamin D, outside of sunlight exposure, supplements are basically your only practical option. Furthermore, the foods mentioned often have it added (milk nearly always does) and so one would want to be aware of that before adding it further from another supplement. At worst, the paragraph is just a poorly constructed catch al…

Here are my concerns with their statement: First, I recall warnings about too much fish consumption due to mercury levels in the fish. So how much fish consumption is necessary to get the required omega 3 and does the benefits balance out over the harm caused by the mercury? And are there any particular kinds of fish to consume to limit mercury exposure while getting the benefits of omega 3? Second, as far as I know…

to that effect, Tony Robbins was exclusively eating fish and ended up with advanced neurodegenration (due to heavy metal poisoning) had to go on chelation etc.

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Post by coldtea »

speedplane wrote: post #144
cies wrote: post #137

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> mercury levels in the fish Better not to eat fish at all, as one small bit of tuna (for instance) per week already increases the mercury build up in the body. https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/fish/ Also, you can get high DHA omega 3 supplements made from algae. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/should-we-take-epa-and-dha-...

Tuna is nice and fancy (and expensive). Few eat it every day. Tilapia is cheap, sustainable, and has low mercury. I’m no nutritionist, but what’s the big deal with eating tuna every now and again, but mostly sticking to smaller fish?

>Tuna is nice and fancy (and expensive). Few eat it every day.

In which country? Tuna cans and tuna sandwiches and salads are some of the most popular foods in lots of countries.

Nothing fancy (tuna is no lobster or caviar) or especially expensive about it. It's available as a Subway sandwich for dog's sake!

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Post by coldtea »

speedplane wrote: post #140
cies wrote: post #139

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> Consuming large amounts of juice might have been the trigger for diabetic conditions in a family member. I believe this is only possible when on a diet that's >10cal% fat. When your fat intake is very low (like the fruit binging chimps/utangs/bonobos), and your cells are (thus) properly sensitive to insulin, you will not suffer from lots of sugar in fruit juice. Fibers help making it digest slower, and will reduce…

But why drink juice when you can have the full fruit/vegetable? There is way more fiber, you fill up faster, and often it tastes better.

Not to people used to adding tons of sugar and syrups in their "juices"
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