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The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

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Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#81

The Honeycrisp is fine, but I don't love the trend of Apple varieties that taste like jolly ranchers (super sweet and crisp - see also Pink Lady or Jazz). Old fashioned apple varieties like Macintosh and even Red Delicious can be great in season from local farms - I had a Red Delicious today I would take over any Honeycrisp. I have friends who only eat Honeycrisp, I feel old when I complain that it's not a real apple…

If you want to go that direction, maybe no commercial cloned apples are real.

Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#82
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of [color]berries, have you trued blackcurrants, redcurrants and whitecurrants?

Currants are [mostly] unknown in the USA. Biggest reason is the ban on black currants cultivation from a 100 years ago. I don't care much for fresh red or white currants (they are good in jams though), but black currant is something I really miss here.

The reason for that ban is that currant plants can spread white pine blister rust[0], which American pine trees have little resistance to. However, plant breeders are working on resistant strains of blackcurrant and pine tree, and the ban is decided by individual states, so it's not impossible to get blackcurrants in the US.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronartium_ribicola

Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#83

The Honeycrisp is fine, but I don't love the trend of Apple varieties that taste like jolly ranchers (super sweet and crisp - see also Pink Lady or Jazz). Old fashioned apple varieties like Macintosh and even Red Delicious can be great in season from local farms - I had a Red Delicious today I would take over any Honeycrisp. I have friends who only eat Honeycrisp, I feel old when I complain that it's not a real apple…

I don't understand how anyone could feel this way. Pink Lady and Honeycrisp are so much better than Red Delicious they may as well not even be the same fruit. I'll never eat a Red Delicious again.

Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#84

This is one of the silliest articles I've ever read. > "Though it succeeded beyond anyone’s wildest dreams, along the way it became a nightmare for some producers, forcing small Northeastern growers to compete with their massive, climatically advantaged counterparts on the West Coast." > Prices for Honeycrisps Can Be 2-3x Other Apples > "So why do farmers put up with the hassle? They simply don’t have a choice. The d…

It’s a curse if you were a small orchard happily growing another apple variety. No one wants your apples anymore so you have to rip out all your trees an plant new one. (Side note: Really you’re grafting new branches.) That’s a lot of capital investment for a family business that might have been eeking along already.

And, as the article says, who knows when you’ll need to switch to the next variety.

Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#85

This is one of the silliest articles I've ever read. > "Though it succeeded beyond anyone’s wildest dreams, along the way it became a nightmare for some producers, forcing small Northeastern growers to compete with their massive, climatically advantaged counterparts on the West Coast." > Prices for Honeycrisps Can Be 2-3x Other Apples > "So why do farmers put up with the hassle? They simply don’t have a choice. The d…

It’s a curse if you were a small orchard happily growing another apple variety. No one wants your apples anymore so you have to rip out all your trees an plant new one. (Side note: Really you’re grafting new branches.) That’s a lot of capital investment for a family business that might have been eeking along already. And, as the article says, who knows when you’ll need to switch to the next variety.

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Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#86

This is one of the silliest articles I've ever read. > "Though it succeeded beyond anyone’s wildest dreams, along the way it became a nightmare for some producers, forcing small Northeastern growers to compete with their massive, climatically advantaged counterparts on the West Coast." > Prices for Honeycrisps Can Be 2-3x Other Apples > "So why do farmers put up with the hassle? They simply don’t have a choice. The d…

Think of it in terms of monoculture with all the attendant problems.

I'm from Minnesota but have lived recently in a neighboring state. There is a very popular orchard near where we live. Part of its appeal has been the variety of apple varieties they had. Too many heirlooms to list, along with modern varieties such as honeycrisp. A few years ago I noticed the new owners (the old one retired because of age) were ripping out many of the heirloom varieties and replacing them with honeycrisp. This had been going on but accelerated. When I talked to them, they basically explained that the other varieties were popular, but honeycrisp brought in much more money and was in very high demand.

I think honeycrisp is a great apple, but there are many many great apple varieties, and I get frustrated by the focus on honeycrisp in particular. There's nothing wrong with supplying what's in demand, but I do have a problem with demand being sooo hyperfocused. People get so obsessed with one variety, and then a little later move on to the next big thing.

People become obsessed with honeycrisp, growers rip out other varieties, breed honeycrisp-tasting new varieties, then people get sick of it because it's all honeycrisp, honeycrisp, honeycrisp. They want something different, and then it all happens over again.

People want what they want, I suppose, but to me it seems pretty fickle and destructive.

Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#87

This is one of the silliest articles I've ever read. > "Though it succeeded beyond anyone’s wildest dreams, along the way it became a nightmare for some producers, forcing small Northeastern growers to compete with their massive, climatically advantaged counterparts on the West Coast." > Prices for Honeycrisps Can Be 2-3x Other Apples > "So why do farmers put up with the hassle? They simply don’t have a choice. The d…

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Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#88

I just want to say that I spent my childhood eating terrible red delicious apples and honey crisp apples are a revelation and I don’t care if they cost $18/pound they’re still worth it.

Agreed. Red delicious is just a crap piece of produce. I can’t believe people ever liked them.

Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#89
Pinata apples are my favorite (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinova)

Honeycrisp have been on sale a lot lately (99 cents a pound a week ago)

Honeycrisp is good, but it just seems sort of hollow and doesn't really leave you feeling any fuller at the end. It also doesn't seem to have much depth of flavor. It's just sweet.

Re: The Curse of the Honeycrisp Apple

#90
I just came across Smitten apples and they are also crunchy, sweet and tart like the honeycrisp. https://www.smittenapple.com In California even these new apples are relatively cheap, i never pay over 1$/lb Those who complain about red delicious simply do not know how to pick them. I often pass over them if they are not hard with tight skin. Put them in the fridge and they can be great. In fact I put all my apples into the fridge, it extends their shelf life about 2-3x.
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