Good. Being an asshole to both consumers and small businesses should end in this outcome.
Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
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Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#392Earlier quoted context omitted.
The typical criticism of Yelp was that you could get negative reviews of your business removed if you paid them. I'm not sure how as a coder you'd be able to guarantee that's never been done, except if your code guaranteed that no review could ever be removed by a human moderator, which I'm sure is not the case.
"I'm not sure how as a coder you'd be able to guarantee that's never been done, except if your code guaranteed that no review could ever be removed by a human moderator, which I'm sure is not the case." I don't need to prove a negative. You need to prove your claim. There's no evidence of what you're arguing, anywhere, and I'm telling you that the code didn't have any ability to support it. If there were some system…
I am relying on multiple accounts I've read online:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimhandy/2012/08/16/think-yelp-...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/yelp-accused-of-bullying-bu...
There are multiple accounts in the same results page, and even in this very page:
> Yelp is utter trash. They've shaken down several friends of mine who own and run restaurants. Either you pay for their premium services or a bunch of 1 star reviews start magically appearing on your business Its a well known racket and they should be run out of town on a rail for it.
> After I received my first positive review on the site they called me and tried selling me all kinds of advertising. Hundreds of dollars per month worth. I declined, and around the same time my review went from being on my business page to being buried behind a "View Reviews that are not recommended" link.
Etc, etc. This seems like evidence. Or are all these people lying? Why is everyone slandering poor innocent Yelp then?
Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#393I don't have any sympathy for a site that purposely cripples the web mobile site to force you to install their app. They lock you out of pictures after around 20 so you have to go to desktop or install their crappy app. Yelp will not be missed.
Facebook is the same. Click on messenger on the web app, and it takes you to the play store.
you can still use mbasic.facebook.com to read your fb messages if you need it.
Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
There. is. no. evidence. of. this. I'm not sure how otherwise skeptical techy people imagine a conspiracy into reality with nothing to back it up. Don't you think that of the thousands of people who have worked at yelp, that one of them would have spread news about it with their peers? The "shakedowns", floods of negative reviews, sudden filtering, etc. Every single instance is some anecdotal story online, and has ne…
> There. is. no. evidence. of. this. 5 seconds of googling: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimhandy/2012/08/16/think-yelp-... https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/yelp-accused-of-bullying-bu... There are multiple accounts in the same results page, and even in this very page: > Yelp is utter trash. They've shaken down several friends of mine who own and run restaurants. Either you pay for their premium services or a bunch o…
They're not lying, they believe it's happening. That doesn't mean it is, however. Chances are they're seeing things that can be explained in other ways.
People who say they've seen bigfoot aren't lying when they genuinely believe they've seen bigfoot. That doesn't mean bigfoot exists.
If Yelp actually did shake people down like that, there would very likely be concrete proof by now (recorded phone calls, documents, emails, undercover journalism, whistleblower employees). Just as there would be concrete proof of bigfoot by now.
Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#395Good. The Yelp app/site is basically the same it was 5 years ago. Rather than innovate they chose to: - Opt for the shakedown/extortion method of ranking sites (those that advertised with Yelp rank higher, negative reviews can mysteriously disappear for advertisers) - Whine to regulators about Google is stealing content from them (by, you know, serving a snippet of content that Yelp allows to be scraped). - Harass us…
>Opt for the shakedown/extortion method of ranking sites Do you have any proof of this?
No. No one does because it doesn't happen.
Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just FYI, this is controlled by the ATM itself and your language choice isn’t stored nor passed onto your bank.
I'm not sure if this has changed, but I remember a Chase(?) ATM asking me if I wanted to save the setting. Maybe it's not a thing anymore?
If you had a Chase card they could use some proprietary way of saving the language, but for other banks there's no standard way of saving the language (on the card for example), so the only solution is for the ATMs to maintain an online (since you're unlikely to return to the same ATM) mapping of card numbers to languages, and that would bring a huge liability.
Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#397Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just FYI, this is controlled by the ATM itself and your language choice isn’t stored nor passed onto your bank.
I'm not sure if this has changed, but I remember a Chase(?) ATM asking me if I wanted to save the setting. Maybe it's not a thing anymore?
Chase has a bunch of ATM settings you can configure in the web app. Auto printing receipts without a prompt is one of them.
Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#398I don't have any sympathy for a site that purposely cripples the web mobile site to force you to install their app. They lock you out of pictures after around 20 so you have to go to desktop or install their crappy app. Yelp will not be missed.
Just check "Desktop site" checkbox in Chrome for Android menu.
A bigger problem is the ethics of this company and its CEO.
Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#399Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not the person you're replying to, but here goes: It's not 2011 anymore, back when the mobile web was trash because companies maintained both a desktop site and a severly gimped "m.desktop.com" site. Back then you pretty much had to have apps if you wanted to capture the mobile market. Today, we have mature Add to Home Screen capability, GPS support, push notifications, widespread support for CSS3 hardware accele…
you can add push notification from mobile web? I suppose i see the attempts for me to enable desktop notifications but ive never seen them on mobile web before. Feels weird to applaud add to home screen but not want the app. Also im on wifi so often that i guess 50mb to download an app is a non issue for me. I am biased because I build native apps vs web apps but ive always preferred a rich native experience and desi…
The problem is most companies are not interested in building rich native experiences. Amazon is a trillion dollar company and their mobile app is horrendous. They don't see it as a priority, it's just something that has to exist, like how companies have to write awful PR blog posts that nobody is reading.
For me, the "add to home screen" means the PWA launches in fullscreen without any browser chrome and that helps the experience a lot. My home screen gets a tiny bit more cluttered but that's an acceptable tradeoff.
Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site
#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but Google reviews are essentially the same thing.
> Yeah, but Google reviews are essentially the same thing. How so? I've registered businesses on Google and never gotten a sales call from a Google rep.
have a mob go after your business on Google reviews and then try to get them removed.