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Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Post by flattone »

neogodless wrote: post #267
wlesieutre wrote: post #151

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Don't you want to view it in the official Reddit app for the best experience ? No, no I don't. And the official reddit app is not the best experience.

This reminds me of Tumblr, which I'm sure none of you have heard of or remember :) But seriously it's always like "Open in the Tumblr app for the best experience." I finally gave it a try and it was a serious downgrade in my opinion!

"so the touchbar has a steep learning curve [for you]" - Apple to me on phone asking to switch to none touchbar mbp. Also probably any website app evangelist.

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Post by ajacksified »

chrissnell wrote: post #193
Scoundreller wrote: post #102

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Reddit keeps asking me if I want to download their app or Open in Safari... regardless of which browser I’m using. Not every iOS user is using Safari!!!!

I actually wrote some ad blocking rules to remove all of these Reddit annoyances. I've been meaning to submit them to one of the mobile-focused Adblock lists. Here are the elements that you need to hide. I like 1 BlockerX for this: .snackbar .xpromopopup .topbutton .xpromopill

You can also turn off the ads by opening the menu and clicking "Ask to open in App?".

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Post by chiefgeek »

davemp wrote: post #283
chrissnell wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually wrote some ad blocking rules to remove all of these Reddit annoyances. I've been meaning to submit them to one of the mobile-focused Adblock lists. Here are the elements that you need to hide. I like 1 BlockerX for this: .snackbar .xpromopopup .topbutton .xpromopill

I leave these on to remind me how far reddit has fallen and to generally avoid the site.

God, Reddit was the bomb 8-9 years ago!

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Post by shaklee3 »

mlrtime wrote: post #9

I don't have any sympathy for a site that purposely cripples the web mobile site to force you to install their app. They lock you out of pictures after around 20 so you have to go to desktop or install their crappy app. Yelp will not be missed.

Can you recommend something to find restaurants with a sufficient number of reviews to be meaningful? Yelp at least had a lot of users, even if many of the reviews were fake. Google reviews tends to inflate everything, so most restaurants have a higher score on Google reviews than they do on Yelp. It would be nice if someone solved the review problem for restaurants.

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Post by elvinyung »

shaklee3 wrote: post #385
mlrtime wrote: post #9

I don't have any sympathy for a site that purposely cripples the web mobile site to force you to install their app. They lock you out of pictures after around 20 so you have to go to desktop or install their crappy app. Yelp will not be missed.

Can you recommend something to find restaurants with a sufficient number of reviews to be meaningful? Yelp at least had a lot of users, even if many of the reviews were fake. Google reviews tends to inflate everything, so most restaurants have a higher score on Google reviews than they do on Yelp. It would be nice if someone solved the review problem for restaurants.

I am convinced this no longer exists. (shameless plug ramble: [1]) It's too easy to inflate reviews now.

[1] https://www.notion.so/The-Hyperreality-of-Big-Data-ae0aebb35...

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Post by selectodude »

Crespyl wrote: post #337
wlesieutre wrote: post #240

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IIRC the official app is from them buying AlienBlue, which used to be the best one on iOS. These days it's Apollo. Apollo recently moved some push notification features behind a subscription to cover ongoing costs, separate from their "Pro" one time in-app purchase, so I think Reddit is at least taking a cut from API usage by other clients.

I don't use the iOS versions, but IIRC they never really did anything with AlienBlue after the purchase, and the "official" mobile app is a totally separate project.

It was an acqui-hire. He wrote the new reddit app, too.

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Post by shaklee3 »

mlrtime wrote: post #9

I don't have any sympathy for a site that purposely cripples the web mobile site to force you to install their app. They lock you out of pictures after around 20 so you have to go to desktop or install their crappy app. Yelp will not be missed.

Facebook is the same. Click on messenger on the web app, and it takes you to the play store.

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Post by dunpeal »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #292
dunpeal wrote: post #260

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The typical criticism of Yelp was that you could get negative reviews of your business removed if you paid them. I'm not sure how as a coder you'd be able to guarantee that's never been done, except if your code guaranteed that no review could ever be removed by a human moderator, which I'm sure is not the case.

There. is. no. evidence. of. this. I'm not sure how otherwise skeptical techy people imagine a conspiracy into reality with nothing to back it up. Don't you think that of the thousands of people who have worked at yelp, that one of them would have spread news about it with their peers? The "shakedowns", floods of negative reviews, sudden filtering, etc. Every single instance is some anecdotal story online, and has ne…

> There. is. no. evidence. of. this.

5 seconds of googling:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimhandy/2012/08/16/think-yelp-...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/yelp-accused-of-bullying-bu...

There are multiple accounts in the same results page, and even in this very page:

> Yelp is utter trash. They've shaken down several friends of mine who own and run restaurants. Either you pay for their premium services or a bunch of 1 star reviews start magically appearing on your business Its a well known racket and they should be run out of town on a rail for it.

> After I received my first positive review on the site they called me and tried selling me all kinds of advertising. Hundreds of dollars per month worth. I declined, and around the same time my review went from being on my business page to being buried behind a "View Reviews that are not recommended" link.

Etc, etc. This seems like evidence. Or are all these people lying? Why is everyone slandering poor innocent Yelp then?

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Post by gremlinsinc »

wlesieutre wrote: post #151
Scoundreller wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit keeps asking me if I want to download their app or Open in Safari... regardless of which browser I’m using. Not every iOS user is using Safari!!!!

Don't you want to view it in the official Reddit app for the best experience ? No, no I don't. And the official reddit app is not the best experience.

I wish they'd offer the option to open in Relay or whatever your preferred app is..the official Reddit app sucks.
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