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Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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IIRC the official app is from them buying AlienBlue, which used to be the best one on iOS. These days it's Apollo. Apollo recently moved some push notification features behind a subscription to cover ongoing costs, separate from their "Pro" one time in-app purchase, so I think Reddit is at least taking a cut from API usage by other clients.

Weirdly, most of the features Apollo puts behind the subscription tier are features I think foster unhealthy engagement with Reddit and I'm just as happy to not have hanging over me. I'd be happy to pay them, but I actually don't WANT push notifications, posting from the app, or any of the other stuff that encourages websites to pull you in deeper. And the only reason I even use Apollo is because mobile Reddit is a n…

Same boat here, I've got Pro but have no desire for notifications.

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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I don't have any sympathy for a site that purposely cripples the web mobile site to force you to install their app. They lock you out of pictures after around 20 so you have to go to desktop or install their crappy app. Yelp will not be missed.

What do you use instead?

I like Foursquare though I find the quality of the data/reviews are spotty depending on the city (NYC is good; SF is only so so)

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Seconding this. Yelp reviews have their problems but at least there's always content in the review and I can validate some of the reviewer's reputation if they're being suspiciously positive/negative in their review. Most google ratings I see have very few reviews behind them, and most of them are under a sentence long.

Someone on Google reviewed my local cemetery. One star rating, because it made them sad to drive past it. Why even allow reviews on a cemetery?!

Doesn't hurt to have the option, I guess. If a place doesn't need reviews then it probably doesn't care about bad reviews, and sometimes the reviews are useful nevertheless or at least funny.

See: https://m.xkcd.com/1803/

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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So now that reddit’s Death has begun, what’s our alternative?

Disclaimer: self-promotion I worked at reddit for almost 4 years, but quit and started a non-profit so I could work on building a site that would be able to stick to the principles I believe are important: no advertising or investors, open-source, privacy, higher-quality content, etc. It's not incredibly active yet since it's in invite-only alpha, but it gets several hundred posts a day and is coming along well. Ther…

How are you going to pay for it?

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Good. Yelp is utter trash. They've shaken down several friends of mine who own and run restaurants. Either you pay for their premium services or a bunch of 1 star reviews start magically appearing on your business Its a well known racket and they should be run out of town on a rail for it. On a more personal note, they also refused to adequately protect my wife when we encountered and reported an unscrupulous vendor…

Yeah yelp doesn't do this.

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Good. The Yelp app/site is basically the same it was 5 years ago. Rather than innovate they chose to: - Opt for the shakedown/extortion method of ranking sites (those that advertised with Yelp rank higher, negative reviews can mysteriously disappear for advertisers) - Whine to regulators about Google is stealing content from them (by, you know, serving a snippet of content that Yelp allows to be scraped). - Harass us…

>Opt for the shakedown/extortion method of ranking sites

Do you have any proof of this?

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Don't you want to view it in the official Reddit app for the best experience ? No, no I don't. And the official reddit app is not the best experience.

It's not even close to the best experience. Often when I "open in the app", I just get sent to the homepage of my app with no way to find the random post I had been trying to view.

What would you recommend? I bought Reddit sync pro years ago and I'm happy with it. My only complaint is the in-app imgur browser doesn't always work.

Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Because mobile apps make our mobile phones data collection devices. When accessing a service from the browser you have a lot more control on what information it receives about you. I am not saying most users think like that, providing anecdotal feedback here.

On iOS and now newer versions of Android you are able to individually grant and revoke permissions. What information are you expecting them to extract via the app that you can't block?

You knkw an even easier way to block permissions? Dont download the app
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