The End Is Near for Mobile Apps? • Hacker News Board

Re: The End Is Near for Mobile Apps?

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Post by wasm_future » Tue, Nov 06, 2018, 9:51 PM UTC

KaiserPro wrote: post #17

This is written by someone who lives in the "web eats everything" bubble. It also neglects the apple store. The fact is, webapps are suboptimal, and unless something drastically changes, will remain so. Unless you have decent caching, they are slow, difficult to use, and generally annoying. Why? firstly HTML/JS is a very slow presentation layer compared to native, which means less battery. You still can't multithread…

> This is written by someone who lives in the "web eats everything" bubble.

Most mobile developers have no idea how web-centric non-mobile devs are. I've recently started working in a web-centric company, and am the only mobile dev. It's mind boggling, freaking unbelievable how less open minded web developers really are. I had no idea.

I don't know what is the cause of this, but this article is pretty common to the crowd who were trying to convince everyone that Phonegap was a viable solution 5 years ago. All I know is that the web community need to get this kind of hyperbole under control because they're losing credibility.

I've almost reached the point where I don't take anything they say seriously anymore, especially when it comes to platforms that they've never spent a single project developing on.

Re: The End Is Near for Mobile Apps?

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Post by eddieroger » Wed, Nov 07, 2018, 1:10 PM UTC

grigjd3 wrote: post #110

eddieroger wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I won't clutter up my phone with things that work just fine in a browser That's the window for apps to compete. If "just fine" works for you, cool, but it's possible for apps to make the experience better in meaningful ways. A web page can't notify of you a new message, but an app can, for example. Look at all the Twitter apps that came up, and they've had to start to systematically kill over time because the e…

I see notifications as a downside as a user, not an upside.

Well I'm not going to tell you that the way you use a mobile device is wrong, but it is not the way I use my devices. I guess we'll have to see which one of us most people agree with. If people stop downloading apps, we'll stop seeing companies put effort in to them.

Re: The End Is Near for Mobile Apps?

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Post by grigjd3 » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 6:41 AM UTC

eddieroger wrote: post #182

grigjd3 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see notifications as a downside as a user, not an upside.

Well I'm not going to tell you that the way you use a mobile device is wrong, but it is not the way I use my devices. I guess we'll have to see which one of us most people agree with. If people stop downloading apps, we'll stop seeing companies put effort in to them.

I don't give a rat's ass what makes the most money. You're shitty app needs to earn my attention, rather than annoy me into giving it attention.

Re: The End Is Near for Mobile Apps?

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Post by grey-area » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 8:10 PM UTC

KaiserPro wrote: post #17

This is written by someone who lives in the "web eats everything" bubble. It also neglects the apple store. The fact is, webapps are suboptimal, and unless something drastically changes, will remain so. Unless you have decent caching, they are slow, difficult to use, and generally annoying. Why? firstly HTML/JS is a very slow presentation layer compared to native, which means less battery. You still can't multithread…

people who installed our news reader app were 4-8 times more engaged

Of course they were more engaged, they're the tiny minority that cared enough to find and download your app.

You have't adressed the most important point in the article - people simply don't want hundreds of apps on their phone.