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Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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Re: Yelp craters 30% as advertisers abandon the site

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To be fair, asking this for every single session ignoring my answer that has been the same the past 1000 times makes it a stupid, anti-user action.

I dearly hope my bank raises a flag if I decide to choose a language other than English on the ATM. I’ve only chosen it 9134 times in a row.

"Congratulations, Scoundreller, on learning a new language. As a reward we've temporarily lifted your maximum withdrawal limit!"

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https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pacific+Ocean/@-0.1930911,... Google Reviews of the Pacific Ocean.

I love that some of the reviewers are even labeled "Local Guide"s

Someone once gave 5 stars to a business project that I had created but never launched (no business, product or service with zero customers) but which had a Google Business listing. I suspect people routinely fake review places to inflate their egos but also because Google offers them real benefits.

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Because mobile apps make our mobile phones data collection devices. When accessing a service from the browser you have a lot more control on what information it receives about you. I am not saying most users think like that, providing anecdotal feedback here.

On iOS and now newer versions of Android you are able to individually grant and revoke permissions. What information are you expecting them to extract via the app that you can't block?

My phone uses android 8.1 API. I know about granular permissions but in practice this does not always work. For example the PlayMemories app from Sony - to use with Sony digital cameras - does not open at all (actually it opens to tell you to give the permission and doesn't do anything else) unless you give it location permissions. Why do I need to tell my location to an app whose use is to wirelessly grab the pictures from my camera to my phone?

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I have a question: Would it be possible to do something like Fakespot for Yelp reviews or just restaurant reviews in general? I can appreciate that the problem is harder than say spotting fake Amazon reviews, but it seems plausible.

Given that there is really no good verification for restaurant reviews, there must be a ton of fake reviews out there. In theory, it would not be too hard to periodically crawl reviews and figure out when/if they got deleted and use that dataset to find patterns.

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I don't think "most people" are even aware of Yelp's previous issues. It's probably more just Google eating their lunch.

I don't know, I've heard an awful lot of people who aren't tech/privacy nerds joke about how Yelp allows you to pay to remove bad reviews or add fake ones. It seems to be a common belief in at least the food industry and that employs an awful lot of people who may hear and propagate it.

Same here; I know people who are tech-averse (willing to use smartphones, Facebook, etc. but not interested in knowing anything about how it works) refer to Yelp's unreliability, without bothering to explain it. In other words, it's a known fact not needing to be explained, because they assume everyone in the conversation already knows it. I think their reputation is probably a net negative, by now, and their technology certainly cannot help them with that.

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Reddit keeps asking me if I want to download their app or Open in Safari... regardless of which browser I’m using. Not every iOS user is using Safari!!!!

Use old.reddit.com

But that takes you to do the desktop site. Not ideal.

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Does anyone else find that their best restaurant experiences come from places that only show up on a yelp search several pages down (if at all)? A number of years ago I stopped using yelp to find places to eat in my hometown because I found that the app completely overlooked smaller, locally run places for big name places near tourist hot spots.

Nope, not if you sort by rating instead of default (which seems to include things like popularity).

Yelp ratings (at least here in NYC) are the most reliable signal of a restaurant's quality I've ever found, particularly when you look at the histogram.

If a place has significantly more 5-star ratings than 4-star, you're basically guaranteed it will be amazing.

And it has more 4-star than 5-star (assuming it's also more 4-star than 3-star), it's probably fine but there's a reason it's not getting 5 stars, and it's unlikely to be amazing.

Obviously this relies on having a large enough sample size (e.g. 30+).

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Don't you want to view it in the official Reddit app for the best experience ? No, no I don't. And the official reddit app is not the best experience.

It’s a matter of time before they acquire the top app or two and block the rest.

Eh I doubt the Apollo guy would be interested in selling, but I've been surprised before.

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I don't have any sympathy for a site that purposely cripples the web mobile site to force you to install their app. They lock you out of pictures after around 20 so you have to go to desktop or install their crappy app. Yelp will not be missed.

just curious why you're against downloading the app? I work on native apps and just wondering why you have a preference for mobile web.

I'm not the person you're replying to, but here goes:

It's not 2011 anymore, back when the mobile web was trash because companies maintained both a desktop site and a severly gimped "m.desktop.com" site. Back then you pretty much had to have apps if you wanted to capture the mobile market.

Today, we have mature Add to Home Screen capability, GPS support, push notifications, widespread support for CSS3 hardware acceleration, PWAs, offline capabilities and much more.

You can now make Uber and Lyft trips on the mobile web. That is a use case where I had previously thought I would always need to have the app installed.

So with that in mind, why would I even want to open the dumpster fire that is Google Play/App Store in 2018? If it's a new company I haven't heard of, I am sure as hell not about to open the app store and download > 50MB on my data plan to check you out.

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Yelp was involved in more than a few shady dealings over the years, and most people remember that. They manipulate their own rating for money, and for that reason many consider these ratings - their core product - to be unreliable and misleading. They will not be missed.

None of this is true. Stop repeating rumors. Source: I worked there, on the systems in question, and know for a fact that the things you're asserting are not true.

Working on the systems in a technical capacity doesn't necessarily inform you of how those systems were used.
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