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Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by wemdyjreichert » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:17 AM UTC

esotericn wrote: post #150

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #139

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Permission granted to the user is also granted to malware.

Okay, so give it an off switch. Gate it behind a long 20-step procedure. Put a video of a guy repeatedly telling the user "hey, hey, this is bad, don't do this unless you're a developer and know why you're doing it, it's a bad!". I mean really you don't even have to go that far. Just give it an off switch.

Maybe something like Android's developer mode, where you have to tap something (build version iirc?) In the about phone like 10 times. Won't find it unless you look.

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by colobas » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:23 AM UTC

voltagex_ wrote: post #156

colobas wrote: post #48

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Yeah I'm aware of this, but my use case is different. I'm often abroad, but I also often need to contact numbers from my home country, so I wanted to have a phone I could ssh into from abroad and serve as a gateway

You used to be able to do this with chan_bluetooth on Asterisk, but I would not recommend it.

Why not?

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by profalseidol » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:42 AM UTC

Don't we have foldable monitors and keyboard yet?

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by shaklee3 » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:46 AM UTC

craftyguy wrote: post #128

> Linux on DeX currently supports one customized Ubuntu image (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS version provided by Canonical) which only operates on selected Samsung devices. (Note9 and Tab S4). A crappy distro on a couple of old devices? No thanks. I'll just wait for the Librem 5 [0] 0) https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ Edit: Misread "Note9" as "Note7" (don't ask). Ooops. My conclusion still stands.

It's really odd to bash a flagship phone with great reviews, only to say you're waiting for a phone that nobody will buy or support.

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by shaklee3 » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 5:48 AM UTC

colobas wrote: post #48

rsync wrote: post #45

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"I was hoping this would allow me to ssh into my phone to make/take calls and send/receive texts. Does anyone knows if that's possible?" I send SMS from the command line by curl'ing twilio ... curl -X POST -d "Body=Hi" -d "From=3032221111" -d "To=4151112222" "https://api.twilio.com/2010-04-01/Accounts/${account_sid}/Messages" -u "${account_sid}:${auth_token}" I do at least half of my testing this way, from inside my…

Yeah I'm aware of this, but my use case is different. I'm often abroad, but I also often need to contact numbers from my home country, so I wanted to have a phone I could ssh into from abroad and serve as a gateway

Google voice does this perfectly. No use in doing something like ssh that may or may not work.

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by nickpsecurity » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 6:03 AM UTC

Reminds me of Nirvana phone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_Phone

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by voycey » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 6:16 AM UTC

I would love for the time to arrive where I can just walk to work with my phone in my pocket, dock it and run everything I need to in one place on one device - unfortunately as someone said above the restrictions manufacturers put on the devices are too hardcore.

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by pankajdoharey » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 6:24 AM UTC

I hope eventually Apple produces something of this sort, atleast on the surface it seems they are onto something with Marzipan. Someone should solve this problem completely.

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by rzr » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 6:37 AM UTC

minikomi wrote: post #122

i_phish_cats wrote: post #34

For those of us who don't have a supported device, there's an android app called [Termux]( https://termux.com/ ) which provides a surprisingly linux-y experience. I sometimes code on my 10" tablet with a small (60%) keyboard.

This + emacs + org-mode + a heavily customized doom emacs means I can track money using ledger, generate workouts using a python script outputting org tables and a lot more. Even worked out how to sync my folder to Dropbox, called from an emacs shortcut.

I'll be curious to compare my flow with yours...

BTW: dropbox is lame until you can use encfs over it ;)

Re: Linux on Dex

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Post by sohkamyung » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 6:38 AM UTC

esotericn wrote: post #151

elipsey wrote: post #121

I have pretty much given up on the prospect of running a full fledged FOSS OS on devices that don’t give access to the bootloader’s root of trust, or give you a userland that works with a kernel you can’t control (eg Crouton). It all sounds great until you start trying to do actuall work. As soon as you need anything that’s not provided by the manufacturer software image you start to notice all the foundational thing…

Indeed. I'm on the lookout for a solid system that can boot a vanilla Linux kernel (something like an x86 laptop or ARM laptop, sub 10 inches preferably) that can make phone calls, receive SMS, and has a built in 4G modem. Does such a thing exist? I'd rather have a crap phone attached to a powerful computer, than a powerful phone that locks itself down so much that it's a crap computer.

Maybe something like the Cosmo Communicator [1]? It's a 'reboot' of the Psion PDA form factor by the same people who created the Gemini PDA.

[1] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator/