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What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by EdgarVerona »

soulwatcher wrote: post #4

Many of the features (Dependency injection, etc) seem only to be available for ASP.Net Core. What about cross platform desktop applications? Do we have a GUI layer that is cross platform as well?

Oh, the dependency injection definitely works independently of ASP.NET Core - it's just something frequently talked about in tandem with it. Just wrote a console app that used it a couple of days ago.

I don't know about the current status of the GUI layer, other than that I've heard plans for WPF to be ported over to .NET Core. I don't know if or when that will actually happen.

Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by nikofeyn »

mercurial wrote: post #16
blinkingled wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sanely designed/mature libraries I might add. I went through an exercise to build a simple web app with Rust and ASP.NET/Core - I was mind boggled how mature the .NET Core stack/ASP.NET felt compared to pulling in 3rd party crates that are constantly in flux. Even after you're done fighting them the code still looks daunting compared to C# - there is a certain cleanliness to it. Not criticizing Rust which is a very n…

The .NET ecosystem is a lot more mature than Rust's, there is no arguing that. As for code cleanliness, though, it's debatable. Rust has ADTs, Option, exhaustive pattern matching, Option and Result. C# doesn't.

.net is not equal to c#. f# has all of that and a much cleaner syntax than rust.

Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by doesnt_know »

PhilWright wrote: post #8

The post only mentions .NET Core, but should actually be mostly talking about ASP.NET Core that runs on top of .NET Core. The features such as dependency injection and Razor Pages are ASP.NET Core specific. Microsoft have announced that they will be porting WinForms and WPF over to .NET Core so that they no longer need the heavyweight .NET Framework. However, this DOES NOT make WinForms/WPF cross-platform. They will…

> ASP.NET Core that runs on top of .NET Core

Confusing, ASP.NET Core can actually also run on top of the Full .NET Framework right now, although it was announced this won't be a trend which will continue.

> features such as dependency injection

And DI isn't actually a feature limited to ASP.NET Core, .NET Core itself has DI "built-in".

Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by ahoka »

thejosh wrote: post #20
PhilWright wrote: post #8

The post only mentions .NET Core, but should actually be mostly talking about ASP.NET Core that runs on top of .NET Core. The features such as dependency injection and Razor Pages are ASP.NET Core specific. Microsoft have announced that they will be porting WinForms and WPF over to .NET Core so that they no longer need the heavyweight .NET Framework. However, this DOES NOT make WinForms/WPF cross-platform. They will…

You can use the DI stuff without ASP.Net Core though?

Yes, you can. If you don't need anything fancy (in that case you are better off with autofac), then you can just add the nuget to your console app and start using it with a few lines of code.

Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by velobro »

unsignedint wrote: post #3

One thing that makes .NET Core makes me special for me is PowerShell Core. I have been coding quite a bit of PowerShell Cmdlet in C# lately, on Windows and Linux, and it's very nice that I can pass around .NET datatypes interactively, and in a script.

Powershell Core has allowed me to do 90% of the Office 365 administration I need to do from MacOS and has reduced my time in a Windows VM substantially.

Very happy that Microsoft is making this effort.

Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by ahoka »

rtpg wrote: post #17
keithnz wrote: post #2

this seems odd. The main advantage other than going faster than Node ( which you'd expect ) is that it's cross platform and can run in containers and has libraries.....like MOST other languages. Not knocking .NET Core, I use it a lot... but this just doesn't seem like it tells you what's special about it

Well.. I think some people might think "well I need to go faster than Node... so do I need to go to C? Java is slow too. But the C library ecosystem is _rough_...." Nice infrastructure around the language + speed +... not being Rust (with all the difficulties that come with the language)? Is pretty interesting

>>some people might think "well I need to go faster than Node... so do I need to go to C? Java is slow too. But the C library ecosystem is _rough_...."They would be utterly mistaken on all accounts.

Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by saberience »

zamalek wrote: post #24
gameswithgo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if it is the garbage collected language with the highest performance ceiling now?

Java might still be faster, and that's deliberate. The goal of RyuJIT is understandable code and predictable machine code. HotSpot aims for performance at all costs. Many HotSpot features have been moving over to RyuJIT, even more are planned. I've always been envious of HotSpot. The main feature I've been envious of is its namesake: it aggressively optimizes hot spots. .Net now has this (tiered compilation), but it'…

As of the latest versions of .net core, it's definitely faster than Java and it's not even a contest. Oracle is asleep at the while and the new version of Microsoft is pushing C# and .net much harder.

https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/...

Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by cdash »

EdgarVerona wrote: post #31
soulwatcher wrote: post #4

Many of the features (Dependency injection, etc) seem only to be available for ASP.Net Core. What about cross platform desktop applications? Do we have a GUI layer that is cross platform as well?

Oh, the dependency injection definitely works independently of ASP.NET Core - it's just something frequently talked about in tandem with it. Just wrote a console app that used it a couple of days ago. I don't know about the current status of the GUI layer, other than that I've heard plans for WPF to be ported over to .NET Core. I don't know if or when that will actually happen.

There are plans to bring WPF to .NET Core but it will still be windows only. It is being done because Microsoft wants to move all development to be on top of .NET Core.

Re: What Makes .NET Core So Special?

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Post by [deleted] »

doesnt_know wrote: post #34
PhilWright wrote: post #8

The post only mentions .NET Core, but should actually be mostly talking about ASP.NET Core that runs on top of .NET Core. The features such as dependency injection and Razor Pages are ASP.NET Core specific. Microsoft have announced that they will be porting WinForms and WPF over to .NET Core so that they no longer need the heavyweight .NET Framework. However, this DOES NOT make WinForms/WPF cross-platform. They will…

> ASP.NET Core that runs on top of .NET Core Confusing, ASP.NET Core can actually also run on top of the Full .NET Framework right now, although it was announced this won't be a trend which will continue. > features such as dependency injection And DI isn't actually a feature limited to ASP.NET Core, .NET Core itself has DI "built-in".

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