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Sundar Pichai: ‘Technology Doesn’t Solve Humanity’s Problems’

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Can someone explain if "right to be forgotten" laws and processes are equivalent to China's "wall" of censorship and processes?

I will try to give an objective answer.

They have a different underlying value system. Europe believes in individualism and privacy. China believes in collectivism and harmony.

Right to be forgotten protects the individual. China's wall protects the government.

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To put the title into context: "Do you still feel like Silicon Valley has retained that idealism that struck you when you arrived here?" "There’s still that optimism. But the optimism is tempered by a sense of deliberation. Things have changed quite a bit. You know, we deliberate about things a lot more, and we are more thoughtful about what we do. But there’s a deeper thing here, which is: Technology doesn’t solve h…

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Google was enabling the DoD to be more efficient at killing people and China to be more oppressive until its workers protested. So he's right about humanity having to solve its problems but he's forgetting that Google, the corporation, is opting to make it harder for humanity to solve its problems by enabling those who do not have humanity's best interest in their heart.

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(Please try to respect the netiquette when voting.)

Empty words by Sundar Pichai employed to achieve a desired effect in Google's benefit.

The airplane is an example of a technology that has brought us closer together and helped advance the ideal of an interconnected global "village" and which I'm contrasting with the promise made for Google's products -- but don't get hung up on my example, because my argument is directed at Google.

Maybe it's just Google's tech that has failed to deliver on its promise for a better world.

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Can someone explain if "right to be forgotten" laws and processes are equivalent to China's "wall" of censorship and processes?

Equivalent doesn't seem right but the idea is that they are down information that the government tells them to. The difference is just the government rationale for having it taken down (which clearly hugely important).

I was curious about it and my interpretation of the official company stance is they they can either do their best to give the Chinese what the best search they can or not try to give them any help at all.

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(Please try to respect the netiquette when voting.) Empty words by Sundar Pichai employed to achieve a desired effect in Google's benefit. The airplane is an example of a technology that has brought us closer together and helped advance the ideal of an interconnected global "village" and which I'm contrasting with the promise made for Google's products -- but don't get hung up on my example, because my argument is di…

He is both implying that "Technology" === Google, and that Google shouldn't be held accountable for any human problems.

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Marketing led design processes don't solve humanity's problems particularly well.

For anyone who would like ideas on how to get technology to do a better job of following needs, I'd strongly recommend the book 'Design For The Real World' by Victor Papeneck - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/190560.Design_for_the_Re...

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To put the title into context: "Do you still feel like Silicon Valley has retained that idealism that struck you when you arrived here?" "There’s still that optimism. But the optimism is tempered by a sense of deliberation. Things have changed quite a bit. You know, we deliberate about things a lot more, and we are more thoughtful about what we do. But there’s a deeper thing here, which is: Technology doesn’t solve h…

> Google was enabling the DoD to be more efficient at killing people and China to be more oppressive until its workers protested. So he's right about humanity having to solve its problems but he's forgetting that Google, the corporation, is opting to make it harder for humanity to solve its problems by enabling those who do not have humanity's best interest in their heart.

His statement is a wonderful PR side step of that issue. It’s meant to convey an understanding of the moral challenges of technology but with their support of the DoD it seems, well, words are wind.

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Can someone explain if "right to be forgotten" laws and processes are equivalent to China's "wall" of censorship and processes?

I will try to give an objective answer. They have a different underlying value system. Europe believes in individualism and privacy. China believes in collectivism and harmony. Right to be forgotten protects the individual. China's wall protects the government.

No matter the values and principles, no matter whether you agree with them or not, at the end of the day both positions are the law in the respective territories. You don't get to pick and choose which laws should be enforced. But you can choose which countries to do business in, of course.

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(Please try to respect the netiquette when voting.) Empty words by Sundar Pichai employed to achieve a desired effect in Google's benefit. The airplane is an example of a technology that has brought us closer together and helped advance the ideal of an interconnected global "village" and which I'm contrasting with the promise made for Google's products -- but don't get hung up on my example, because my argument is di…

> global "village": the airplane.

That technology has also allowed for bad things like Guernica, Nagasaki&Hiroshima and the napalm fields of the Vietnam War.

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