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Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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Post by carlmr » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 8:25 AM UTC

Bjartr wrote: post #206

russellbeattie wrote: post #112

Boy Scouts of America is a discriminatory religious organization with a ridiculously long record of exclusionary policies [1]. They don't "welcome" gay scouts, but permit them. Atheists still aren't allowed to be scout leaders. As a parent I refused to let my son have anything to do with them. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America_member...

As an Eagle Scout I'll say that I'm not a huge fan of the BSA organization, but wholeheartedly support local troops. Not every troop is good, to be sure, but I don't think dismissing the whole of Boy Scouts is appropriate.

I loved my time in the Boy Scouts. The organization doesn't matter if you find a troop with a good leader.

Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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Post by DavidNielsen » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 11:11 AM UTC

VLM wrote: post #145

fusiongyro wrote: post #79

I feel like I always hear about girl scout fundraising (not just the cookies) but never about girl scouting. In contrast, I hear a lot about camping and whatnot with the boy scouts, yet they never seem to be in my face raising money. What's all that girl scout money going towards? More fundraising?

Parent of both, some anecdotes and generalities follow. Girl scouting is indoors and out of sight, Boy scouting is outdoors and in view. Therefore you will see a lot more "boy activity". They spend a similar amount of time. For whatever weird traditional reason its assumed the boys families will pay maybe a hundred per year for boy scouting stuff, and girls do not pay or only pay a symbolic tiny amount of money. WRT…

To be honest “eco friend” sounds a lot more like what I’d want my children to be involved with than “shotgun shooting”. According to the website the requirements for “Eco Friend” are essentially doing no harm to the environment, making a safe campfire and attempting to be kind. All worthwhile skills but perhaps it could be rebranded to sound cooler, like “Ecosystem management engineer”.

Also if the Girl Scouts could see their way to making merit badges for “fighting the man”, “radical feminism” and “understanding white privilege”, I think their members would be better armed to understand the world in a useful manner. I’d be happy to sew on those to any piece of clothing.

Maybe some Boy Scout badges for “non fire related cooking”, “hanging pictures straight” and “basic household budgeting” would also improve the world and give their members useful skills.

Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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Post by JoeAltmaier » Thu, Nov 08, 2018, 2:05 PM UTC

lovich wrote: post #204

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most young people do grow up in some spiritual environment, at least in America. And all Scouts are required to respect others' faith. I call straw man - what specific problem is being referred to? An imaginary youth raised in a cave?

Citation please. America has very diverse pockets. There's places where the average person wouldn't dream of missing church weekly, and there's others where people have never seen the inside of one. Stating that "most young people" grow up in a spiritual environment means that a kid who isn't spiritual must have been raised in a cave is disengenous

Try google in general? Something between 80 and 90% of Americans for instance identify with some faith.

Re: Girl Scouts file trademark lawsuit as Boy Scouts plan to rename to Scouts BSA

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Post by lovich » Fri, Nov 09, 2018, 3:44 PM UTC

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #213

lovich wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation please. America has very diverse pockets. There's places where the average person wouldn't dream of missing church weekly, and there's others where people have never seen the inside of one. Stating that "most young people" grow up in a spiritual environment means that a kid who isn't spiritual must have been raised in a cave is disengenous

Try google in general? Something between 80 and 90% of Americans for instance identify with some faith.

Yea, looks like 20% of americans have no religious identity[1]. That leads to roughly 69 million people. How does a population that large of non-religious people lead you to believe that a non religious child would have to be imaginary and raised in a cave?

[1]https://news.gallup.com/poll/224642/2017-update-americans-re...