Can they tell if I'm a women's man, no time to talk?
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China can apparently now identify citizens based on the way they walk
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#72In Cory Doctorow's _Little Brother_, some characters would put pebbles in their shoes so gait-recognizers wouldn't recognize them.
Curious if Doctorow got this from Double Star (Heinlein, 1956)
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#731. Gait detector is functional. 2. Countermeasure: use stone in the shoe, tape and other things to fool the gait detector. 3. Counter-countermeasure: detect artificial gaits. Everyone unrecognized with artificial gait is person of interest.
Walk without rhythm, and you will attract the autocrats?
I've got no rhythm, who could ask for anything more?
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#74So, my understanding is that the machine vision technologies discussed in this article don't really work that well, at least not once deployed in the real world, outside of "the lab" and away from the controlled conditions of a scientific experiment reported in a research paper.
I wonder, then- do the authorities of the various countries (by far not just China) who make use of this kind of technology know how little they add to their ability to spy on their citizens? If they know- do they use it anyway just so that lucrative contracts can be signed and money exchange hands? Do they (also?) figure that the fear of being identified by all-seeing, all-knowing cameras will keep the population in the straight and narrow, even if the cameras are blind and dumb as bricks, in practice?
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#751. Gait detector is functional. 2. Countermeasure: use stone in the shoe, tape and other things to fool the gait detector. 3. Counter-countermeasure: detect artificial gaits. Everyone unrecognized with artificial gait is person of interest.
4. Counter-counter-countermeasure: wheels.
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#761. Gait detector is functional. 2. Countermeasure: use stone in the shoe, tape and other things to fool the gait detector. 3. Counter-countermeasure: detect artificial gaits. Everyone unrecognized with artificial gait is person of interest.
4. Counter-counter-countermeasure: wheels.
Or, apply bat to camera.
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#77Setting who wants to do this aside in order to avoid the constant 'X is worse than Y' arguments. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that in a near future we will have cameras that can do much more than identification on a massive scale. It may be easy to track things like how stressed, healthy, sober etc. people are without their consent or without them even noticing. And this would be precise , not speculativ…
Yup. Think about how you can recognize your friends without even seeing their face, by the way they walk, what they wear, how tall they are, and other contextual clues. Computers will be able to do all of that. Also think about other things that only computers with massive amounts of data will be able to do. Computers will be able to enumerate your wardrobe, your possessions. They'll be able to figure out most of the…
Sound like advertiser's heaven. Sign me out please.
Re: China can apparently now identify citizens based on the way they walk
#78This is not new, and is not unique to China. Any country with intelligence units, like the US, is using data mining to identify and control their citizens. It has become fashionable lately to imply that China is the only country doing these things, or somehow doing it in larger scale. Has everyone forgotten what Snowden revealed?
I think it's even more fashionable when there's criticism of any other country to respond with "whatabout the US". No matter it's many faults the US is still a democracy with checks and balances.
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Re: China can apparently now identify citizens based on the way they walk
#79This is not new, and is not unique to China. Any country with intelligence units, like the US, is using data mining to identify and control their citizens. It has become fashionable lately to imply that China is the only country doing these things, or somehow doing it in larger scale. Has everyone forgotten what Snowden revealed?
I think it's even more fashionable when there's criticism of any other country to respond with "whatabout the US". No matter it's many faults the US is still a democracy with checks and balances.
A) the US is not a democracy: see the senate.
B) this is not an excuse for the consistent course towards militaristic, authoritarian state fueled by fear.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
China is doing it at MUCH larger scale and a lot more intrusive. Everything on the internet is tracked and filtered, cameras everywhere. Chinese government can pinpoint location of any of it's 1.3 bln citizens.
Do you have evidence to back up any of that? China doesn't have near the surveillance infrastructure that the US government does outside of China. The simple fact that China has more citizens to surveil does not mean China is conducting surveillance on a larger scale.
I do. Cops don't have this tech.