This will likely simply fizzle out after awhile. If it doesn't, then we can discuss it and see what solutions are out there. But for now, no damage has been done and the "Offer HN" threads have been rather substantive in quality.
Tell HN: Please stop offering your services
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#72http://techstartu.ps/r/techstartups/comments/nk/welcome_hn_r...
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#73I actually think it is fascinating to see this, and I don't think they're spam at all and suggesting they are really not nice at all. HN is many things to many people don't let your particular view of what HN should be dictate the status quo. > But if everyone posted "Offer HN" posts, even if they all did it just once and with a genuine desire to help, rather than a secret need to build their public profile and/or ge…
Re: Tell HN: Please stop offering your services
#74Why do you get to decide what this site does? Who are you to tell people to go post that stuff on another site? If it's pushing out 'more interesting stuff', it's because people have upvoted it because THEY find it worthwhile. I'll admit, I find them mildly annoying, but much less annoying than the total crap that occasionally gets posted, like videos of dancing bears and such. I watch the rss feed and I see -all- of…
On the other hand, as of this writing this complaint post has 131 points. That seems to suggest that more people are against the offer posts than for them. Curiously, the only post on the frontpage now with more posts is "Things Paul Graham is Wrong About", another post with a flamebait title. Not surprisingly, flamebait attracts the upvotes!
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
>That's a pretty cynical worldview. Cynical or skeptical? Or both? Does the fact that his worldview is either of these remove the possibility that it's true, at least in some cases? Does the risk of a drop in overall quality of HN as a result of promoting 'offers' outweigh it's potential benefit? Who knows, but I'm with swombat and can't help be a little skeptical. Personally I'd like to hear some ideas for how one m…
It's possible, but I think such criticism should be leveled at those specific cases where it is applicable, preferably clear cut cases. To take a general stance like this against a whole class of submissions many of which were clearly done from an altruistic point of view is just not very friendly at all.
Re: Tell HN: Please stop offering your services
#76Why do you get to decide what this site does? Who are you to tell people to go post that stuff on another site? If it's pushing out 'more interesting stuff', it's because people have upvoted it because THEY find it worthwhile. I'll admit, I find them mildly annoying, but much less annoying than the total crap that occasionally gets posted, like videos of dancing bears and such. I watch the rss feed and I see -all- of…
On the other hand, as of this writing this complaint post has 131 points. That seems to suggest that more people are against the offer posts than for them. Curiously, the only post on the frontpage now with more posts is "Things Paul Graham is Wrong About", another post with a flamebait title. Not surprisingly, flamebait attracts the upvotes!
Edit: it's entirely possible I misread "points" for "posts", so ignore this entirely.
Re: Tell HN: Please stop offering your services
#77I actually think it is fascinating to see this, and I don't think they're spam at all and suggesting they are really not nice at all. HN is many things to many people don't let your particular view of what HN should be dictate the status quo. > But if everyone posted "Offer HN" posts, even if they all did it just once and with a genuine desire to help, rather than a secret need to build their public profile and/or ge…
So your solution to the spam problem is "Let's add more spam, since we've already got lots?"
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
This post has a lot of upvotes, too.
The dynamics of post upvotes are quite different, they are not always sign of agreement. I saw a lot of time people saying they disagree, but they upvote the post to make it more visible and involve more people in the discussion. I even do it myself from time to time.
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#79I actually think it is fascinating to see this, and I don't think they're spam at all and suggesting they are really not nice at all. HN is many things to many people don't let your particular view of what HN should be dictate the status quo. > But if everyone posted "Offer HN" posts, even if they all did it just once and with a genuine desire to help, rather than a secret need to build their public profile and/or ge…
Hey, you're part of the Secret Cabalistic Society of HN Worship now, you're not allowed to disagree anymore! Get in line! More seriously - call me a cynic if you will, but when I see people offering help with the Twitter API or with SEO or tax advice or even help with RoR, well, I don't know, something smells fishy to me. That help is freely available on numerous forums to anyone who's looking for it, and it is a pre…
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#80In this age of "what's in it for me", the minimal networking benefit offered is the very LEAST the community can give to support the model. We should only be so lucky.
I'm curious as to your background, since it sounds like by your post, your entrepreneurial pursuits have resulted in great wealth which allows for access to unlimited operations, creative and technical knowledge in all areas of business by responsible, domain-expert, timely and proactive professionals.
You, my friend have struck CEO paydirt, can you offer us your secret?