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Tell HN: Please stop offering your services

#1
This is not a sustainable model.

There are thousands of HN users, each with their own areas of expertise.

Often, a good test of whether something is worth doing is "what if everyone did the same?" If everyone was more polite, the world would be a better place. If everyone treated others better, the world would be a better place.

But if everyone posted "Offer HN" posts, even if they all did it just once and with a genuine desire to help, rather than a secret need to build their public profile and/or get some interesting serendipitous contacts, HN would become much less valuable.

To those who believe that this new "Offer HN" craze is something worth encouraging, if that's the case, please create a site that's better tailored to making those offers. Maybe you can even get pg to link to it if it's good. You'll certainly get feedback, and so on.

But please don't post any more "Offer HN". Despite the generous impulse behind them, they are basically just spam that's pushing out other more interesting stuff, at the moment.

Related: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1840143

Re: Tell HN: Please stop offering your services

#4
could not agree more, those are all from the last hour. perhaps we shall have a '/offers' or something else which hackers can go there and offers their goods.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1839375

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1839394

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1839450

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1839460

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1839662

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1839611

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1839736

Re: Tell HN: Please stop offering your services

#5
post #3

Don't worry, these things always run their course. At least this is driven by generosity. Plus you have to admit it's sort of interesting to watch new forms of internet behavior evolve.

Maybe it's interesting to you since HN is your baby and it's fun to watch people use your creation in unexpected ways, but for us, it's lowering the value/utility.

Re: Tell HN: Please stop offering your services

#6
I respectfully disagree that they are "basically just spam" but yet I agree with a few other points you make. No, it isn't sustainable but yes it makes HN a more interesting place. I'd far rather see those types of posts than some of the things that I'm sure you think are "more interesting". And I don't say that in a mean-spirited way; what I mean is that we all have different interests and just b/c you (or 400 others like you) don't like it isn't a sufficient reason to kill it/them.

Re: Tell HN: Please stop offering your services

#9
post #3

Don't worry, these things always run their course. At least this is driven by generosity. Plus you have to admit it's sort of interesting to watch new forms of internet behavior evolve.

For sure. Do they run their course because posts like this one encourage them to run their course, or would they fade away by themselves anyway? :-)

My worry is, this one is a good idea in the wrong place. This is basically a strong variation on reddit's AMA, which has taken a solid hold there and isn't going anywhere. Since HN doesn't support sub-forums, there is a risk that we could be "stuck with" this for a while, if it has the durability of AMA but no sub-forum/site to hide in.

Another possible danger is that the community will lash back against it because of the noise, even though it's a good idea, and so we'll lose a good idea. I really do think that if someone made a special site for this (which wouldn't take that long to code up), it might be something of lasting value.

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