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Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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Has anyone tried to make an SV startup-style company sell Japanese-type toilets in America? I think a lot of people would like them

Considering people keep toilets for 5-10 years per toilet on average and the cost of a toilet is much less than the cost of an electrical bidet... It is not a great idea.

> people keep toilets for 5-10 years per toilet on average

Do you have any data to back this up? I would have assumed it was far less often.

Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering people keep toilets for 5-10 years per toilet on average and the cost of a toilet is much less than the cost of an electrical bidet... It is not a great idea.

> people keep toilets for 5-10 years per toilet on average Do you have any data to back this up? I would have assumed it was far less often.

Yah, who the heck is turning over their toilets twice a decade? Best guess here is 25 year average service life.

Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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post #4

Has anyone tried to make an SV startup-style company sell Japanese-type toilets in America? I think a lot of people would like them

Considering people keep toilets for 5-10 years per toilet on average and the cost of a toilet is much less than the cost of an electrical bidet... It is not a great idea.

5-10 years? Is that the life expectancy of the average modern toilet?

From personal experience that seems off by a few decades.

Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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Has anyone tried to make an SV startup-style company sell Japanese-type toilets in America? I think a lot of people would like them

Good summary here: https://priceonomics.com/toilets/

Wow, solid link. Hopefully some clever entrepreneur will make it happen, someday

Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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This makes me realize how freaking stupid we are as a nation/group-of-nations: There are issues/problems that are common to all. Especially common to ALL governments, societies, etc. Given a population of X and an infrastructure level of Y with purpose Z that are impacts ABC...N A=Cost B=Scale C=[whatever] N=... So - when you look at the cost of a nation, we assume that we have an infrastructure maturity/development…

You should visit Korea. This is exactly what happens. New cities are built around that new Samsung office, or that new army base, or that fake, pressured CBD. The cities surrounding the main capital of Korea are marvellous and are all made from scratch in the last 20 years. There is no better model of perfect city.

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Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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I read the headline and thought, "That's weird, Gates isn't really interested in things that just save money these days." And sure enough, from the article:

> "...may help end almost 500,000 infant deaths and save $233 billion annually in costs linked to diarrhea, cholera and other diseases..."

So I guess that's Bloomberg for you. 233 billion dollars is a way more interesting lede than a mere half a million lives.

Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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Okay, I'll bite. I was at a urinal today that had a mesh screen of a style I'd never noticed, and I thought: Some guy with a degree in engineering/fluid dynamics has this on his resume.

But when you consider there are what, 3.5 billion or so males on the planet, the benefits of urinal hygiene add up pretty quickly.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/08/urinal-splashback-...

Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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This reminds me of software developer who favor deep, technical, architectural work instead of attractive, "sounds cool on paper" sort of work.

To an outsider, the animations look cool but the engine that drives the animation is cooler to software engineers.

Point being, this is not something a normal philanthropist would imagine being cool and awesome. This takes someone who actually cares about shit (in this case literally) to invest time and money into it.

Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering people keep toilets for 5-10 years per toilet on average and the cost of a toilet is much less than the cost of an electrical bidet... It is not a great idea.

> people keep toilets for 5-10 years per toilet on average Do you have any data to back this up? I would have assumed it was far less often.

Then that only proves my point further.

Toilets in my family would get replaced every 15 years.

Re: Gates Foundation spent $200M funding toilet research

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good summary here: https://priceonomics.com/toilets/

Wow, solid link. Hopefully some clever entrepreneur will make it happen, someday

Did you just ignore the comment where I told you it's not even remotely feasible yet? Nor will it be until a radical change to the toilet or bidet comes?
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