Teenager jailed for refusing to hand over computer password
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Re: Teenager jailed for refusing to hand over computer password
#2>> originally arrested for another alleged offence last May. It would be interesting to know the nature of this crime. Was it technology related, or was the computer ceased for less direct relationship with the crime?
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#3I don't know if a law compelling you to reveal encryption keys to the government/police/courts is valid in the UK.
I do, however, know that such a law is morally reprehensible. Quite frankly, it is in the interest of the people to ensure encryption tools are entirely useable by criminals, gangsters, and terrorists, because that ensures they are entirely useable by lawful citizens as well.
Unlike guns (something possible to "defend liberty" as well as commit crime with), encryption has no victims, has no negative consequences. It can hide negative things, but it merely provides automation for knowing something you refuse to tell.
Edit: spelling
Re: Teenager jailed for refusing to hand over computer password
#4✓ Old story (October 6th).
✓ Original article omits context.
✓ US Constitution does not cover the British.
✓ Already covered. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1760700
No discussion required.
Re: Teenager jailed for refusing to hand over computer password
#5If Moore's Law keeps working, this is a ticking time bomb for him. If the police stay interested and crack his crypto, he'll do more time for whatever he's concealed on his computer (if anything).
Re: Teenager jailed for refusing to hand over computer password
#6I don't know if a law compelling you to reveal encryption keys to the government/police/courts is valid in the UK. I do, however, know that such a law is morally reprehensible. Quite frankly, it is in the interest of the people to ensure encryption tools are entirely useable by criminals, gangsters, and terrorists, because that ensures they are entirely useable by lawful citizens as well. Unlike guns (something possi…
Let's say I have a hard drive full of illegal material, the police suspect it and have enough evidence to obtain a warrant, should I not then be obligated to show the contents of the hard drive? Much like a warrant for a home or business premises, why should it not be enforceable for digital things too?
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#7✓ Old story (October 6th). ✓ Original article omits context. ✓ US Constitution does not cover the British. ✓ Already covered. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1760700 No discussion required.
Downvotes, what on earth for? Is it the checkmarks?
Edit: not meaning to complain, I was trying to sort out if it was the Unicode, the tone, the list format, or the "no need to discuss" which is probably a bit rude.
I was hoping to make a quickly read mark that would let people know HN had already been over this ground and there was nothing new in the article, but I failed miserably.
Re: Teenager jailed for refusing to hand over computer password
#8I don't know if a law compelling you to reveal encryption keys to the government/police/courts is valid in the UK. I do, however, know that such a law is morally reprehensible. Quite frankly, it is in the interest of the people to ensure encryption tools are entirely useable by criminals, gangsters, and terrorists, because that ensures they are entirely useable by lawful citizens as well. Unlike guns (something possi…
Let's say I have a hard drive full of illegal material, the police suspect it and have enough evidence to obtain a warrant, should I not then be obligated to show the contents of the hard drive? Much like a warrant for a home or business premises, why should it not be enforceable for digital things too?
But if you've written notes in your notebook that are comprehensible only to you, should you be compelled to explain to the authorities what they mean?
Re: Teenager jailed for refusing to hand over computer password
#9✓ Old story (October 6th). ✓ Original article omits context. ✓ US Constitution does not cover the British. ✓ Already covered. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1760700 No discussion required.
Word War II:
✓ Old story (September 1, 1939).
✓ Thousands of articles likely omitting full context.
✓ US Constitution does not cover the British.
✓ Already covered. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1507526
No discussion required.
Re: Teenager jailed for refusing to hand over computer password
#10I don't know if a law compelling you to reveal encryption keys to the government/police/courts is valid in the UK. I do, however, know that such a law is morally reprehensible. Quite frankly, it is in the interest of the people to ensure encryption tools are entirely useable by criminals, gangsters, and terrorists, because that ensures they are entirely useable by lawful citizens as well. Unlike guns (something possi…
It is valid, and it is morally reprehensible. In the US, the Fifth Amendment protects us from such travesties.