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Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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My money's on DC area and NYC area. DC for the gov contracts, NYC for the talent pool (Columbia, Cornell Tech, and NYU) and transit network.

NYTimes claims you could be right!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/technology/amazon-second-...

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Crystal City and Newark are next door to massive tech areas. In VA there are tons of DoD/Military tech organizations and NYC is right next door to Newark. It's probably cheaper to plant themselves next to those hubs than inside of them. * Added: Especially if you factor in all the people that would normally commute into NYC or DC/Arlington from the surrounding areas now commuting to a potentially closer office locati…

Maybe I'm thinking about this from the perspective of a young, single guy. I would not move to Crystal City for any job, definitely not with a horde of other young, single men. The number of young, college-graduate women there must be way too small.

That's certainly a fair perspective that I can't argue with at all. I can't guess on specific #s but I'd bet there are lots of single men that would though at the chance of snagging an Amazon job. That number is probably relatively high and would make you a part of the outlier group. Working for Amazon might have stigma on HN but I think generally people have a great impression of them and would love to work for them.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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I'd place that bet on Northern Virginia as guaranteed and Chicago, Atlanta or Dallas as the other most plausible, with Toronto being a slight possibility since they're going with two. Colorado is nice, but it's nothing compared to the Texas population and economic boom. 28m people in Texas, versus 5m in Colorado. Texas is also building high-speed rail, which will end up linking all of their major cities, an immense b…

It won't be Atlanta. They didn't even hook up public transit to the new Braves stadium because it would, to quote the county commissioner, "attract a certain type of person". The MARTA there is known as Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta by that crowd.

It's funny to see how so many people in Atlanta insist that Amazon will reject the city due to (insert pet political issue here). Of all the reasons for not selecting Atlanta, if that turns out to be the case, Cobb acting like they've acted for at least half a century isn't going to matter much. Cobb was Cobb when UPS relocated to Atlanta. Cobb was Cobb when the Summer Olympics came to Atlanta. Cobb was Cobb when NCR moved to metro Atlanta. Cobb was Cobb during all of Home Depot's growth (and Cobb is where Home Depot chose to hq in the metro). CEOs love to play games for the publicity but in the end Bezos given the choice between (pet political cause regardless of what it might be) and a billion dollars will go with the cash. He doesn't care if employees can't duck out of work to take the train to see baseball.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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> The writing is on the wall — Texas will turn blue sooner than later. At this point the Democrats can't win for losing. If you field broadly likeable A teamers like Beto and Davis and still lose to comical villains like Cruz and Abbott, it's laughable to think the tide is really turning in our lifetime. Something big has to change, and I'm not sure what it is.

> likeable A teamers like Beto and Davis and still lose to comical villains like Cruz and Abbott Saying stuff like this just makes you sound like a partisan hack. I'm not a "both sides are equal" guy, and I have my preferences, but you should work on trying to see other's points of view a little better than what you apparently have been.

Yeah I'm a hack for more sane Republican Party, not the one of fear mongering crytpo bigots, but one about sensible fiscal policy and a belief in healthy self sufficient communities and individual liberty.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

#235

My money's on DC area and NYC area. DC for the gov contracts, NYC for the talent pool (Columbia, Cornell Tech, and NYU) and transit network.

NYTimes claims you could be right! https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/05/technology/amazon-second-...

haha would you look at that!

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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It won't be Atlanta. They didn't even hook up public transit to the new Braves stadium because it would, to quote the county commissioner, "attract a certain type of person". The MARTA there is known as Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta by that crowd.

It's funny to see how so many people in Atlanta insist that Amazon will reject the city due to (insert pet political issue here). Of all the reasons for not selecting Atlanta, if that turns out to be the case, Cobb acting like they've acted for at least half a century isn't going to matter much. Cobb was Cobb when UPS relocated to Atlanta. Cobb was Cobb when the Summer Olympics came to Atlanta. Cobb was Cobb when NCR…

It's less that it's a pet political issue, and more that it's an example of how a core requirement of Amazon (strong public transit) simply isn't present in Atlanta. Amazon really depends on city services to fill in the gaps of their amenities, and quite frankly, real estate paid for parking spaces is real estate wasted by not being desks. You can see this in the design of their Seattle infrastructure, abd they've been explicit about these requirements in their requests for bids.

That the reason for the lack of usable public infrastructure for white collar workers in Atlanta is due to overt racism on the part of government officials is just the cherry on top.

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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Maybe I'm thinking about this from the perspective of a young, single guy. I would not move to Crystal City for any job, definitely not with a horde of other young, single men. The number of young, college-graduate women there must be way too small.

That's certainly a fair perspective that I can't argue with at all. I can't guess on specific #s but I'd bet there are lots of single men that would though at the chance of snagging an Amazon job. That number is probably relatively high and would make you a part of the outlier group. Working for Amazon might have stigma on HN but I think generally people have a great impression of them and would love to work for them…

Oh, I completely agree that there are many, many worse places to work than Amazon. I realize I am very fortunate to be able to decline such a job and be able to find good offers at a place of my choosing.

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I’ve lived through four or five recessions and there’s no indication this is any sort of anomaly. It’s more like saying that a hurricane is going to hit Florida. Predicting exactly when and how is nearly impossible, but we can say with almost complete certainty that it’s going to happen within a few years.

If few is three years or less time, you can make money on some options expiring Jan 2022. Have you bought them?

And if it’s three years and a month?

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

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> Public transit, continued investment, world class museums, and honestly a pretty hip city with a lot of activity in the center, not unlike Seattle. Also lots of millennials moving there for its low cost of living and ample jobs. Minus museums, this could be said of plenty of other cities that are in places with less wacky politics. Museums don't mean a thing. Low cost of living as a requirement means a relative low…

Denver is not suitable at all.

Why?

Re: Amazon Plans to Split HQ2 Evenly Between Two Cities

#240

I'm extremely curious what the cities who were working closely with Amazon think of this development, as now it seems that they'll be getting half the jobs for their concessions. Additionally, the reason cited for splitting their new HQ is the lack of enough tech talent, which means that their concessions may have been for naught if they didn't have enough talent for Amazon in the first place.

I doubt that even spineless politicians would give up the same concessions for half the jobs and investments.

See Foxconn
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