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How Writers Map Their Imaginary Worlds

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Re: How Writers Map Their Imaginary Worlds

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in the Languages of the Night, a collection of Ursula K. LeGuin's essays on writing, there is a section(IIRC I read it more than 20 years ago) where a famous fantasy magazine editor had asked her to go into how she mapped out her world and created all the documentation beforehand so she could refer to it when needed, her process as it were, and she replied something to the effect of this is not how I do it.

The description of how she did it was that when it became time to have that information, she looked it up in her mind and it came to her, what we might describe as making it up as she went along but which was more like querying her unconscious knowledge of the places and people she was describing.

Re: How Writers Map Their Imaginary Worlds

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Then you'll enjoy this "guide" from /r/imaginarymaps: https://i.imgur.com/Vy0FS8F.png

The "rivers never split" rule is BS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_bifurcation

I'm pretty sure the image is satire that happens to provide a semi-workable description of how watersheds work.

Re: How Writers Map Their Imaginary Worlds

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post #3

Okay, here's my excuse to vent a personal pet peeves. :-) If you're going to publish a map of your imaginary land, map out the watersheds and make sure they make sense. You don't have to include those details in the final map, but they should inform the final map. Real rivers go somewhere. They don't just stop in the middle of nowhere.

My personal pet peeve (or is it peef? ;-) ) is that nearly all imaginary maps fit neatly into a rectangle, making the best use of available space. Sometimes it ends in perfectly straight mountain ranges, long coastlines with no islands etc. Just scroll a bit through https://twitter.com/mythicmaps to see what I mean.

Re: How Writers Map Their Imaginary Worlds

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Okay, here's my excuse to vent a personal pet peeves. :-) If you're going to publish a map of your imaginary land, map out the watersheds and make sure they make sense. You don't have to include those details in the final map, but they should inform the final map. Real rivers go somewhere. They don't just stop in the middle of nowhere.

ahem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_streams_of_Idaho

underground is somewhere...

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Yeah, that's a weird thing to be wrong about. There's an abundance of cities built on where multiple rivers meet.

Plenty cities are located where rivers meet, however I'm struggling to think of any where a major river splits?

Staten Island could be seen as between two ends of the Hudson.

Re: How Writers Map Their Imaginary Worlds

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Many (but not all) fiction authors are known for creating elaborate files of characters, plotlines, scenes, and of course, maps of the world or town or place where the story takes place. But if you have thousands or even millions of people reading your work, someone will find the inconsistencies in the carefully crafted milieus. I think it was fantasy author Piers Anthony who in the intros to his series books used to tip his hat to some of the readers who had written into him to flag the bugs.

Having tried my hand at writing quest-based far future fantasy (unpublished), I can say that for me the map starts out first in my head and then migrates to paper where it undergoes many revisions as the writing progresses. It didn't seem super hard, and because I wasn't super precise about distance covered I think there is a lot of flexibility. I noticed that George RR Martin's map in the "Game of Thrones" world can also be vague - other than the wall, distances between places aren't really articulated and it often seems that the distance from north to south of the realm when described in as people travel around is roughly equidistant to east to west, even though on the map Winterfell to King's landing looks to be so far apart. And, I might add, the lack of a map for the cities and other places across the sea is maddening - I just have no frame of reference for the location of the Dothraki Sea in relationship to Braavos, Valyria, etc.

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Yeah, that's a weird thing to be wrong about. There's an abundance of cities built on where multiple rivers meet.

That's two rivers merging, not splitting.

Not in terms of the "guide" linked to. It looks at rivers as something creeping up from the ocean to higher lands. It's a perspective where a river travels upstream, even if it flows downstream, if that makes sense.

The author is saying two streams travelling up never split, only merge. I'm saying they do split [0]. An upstream split is a downstream merge.

[0] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.7293/4.8128

Re: How Writers Map Their Imaginary Worlds

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that's a weird thing to be wrong about. There's an abundance of cities built on where multiple rivers meet.

Plenty cities are located where rivers meet, however I'm struggling to think of any where a major river splits?

Alexandria and Cairo are at the Nile delta.
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