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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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Which big company starts with "N"? I can only think of Nintendo..

The N in FAANG stands for Netflix, because people needed an N and FAAG would be awkward.

I've always wondered, why isn't Microsoft included in this? FAMANG maybe?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening! Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted! Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not workin…

I can understand these reasons, but come on, at least some of the execs must have noticed that the new Gmail is a total mess, I simply can't believe they're all clueless. This actually made me and people like me to migrate away from Gmail. Do they really want to loose the competitive advantage they used to have?

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I get drastically different performance using Google's services between Firefox and Chrome. I had instant responses in Chrome for Gmail, Chat/Hangouts, Calendar, etc. In Firefox? 4-6 second wait for _every_ interaction. And I don't think the fault is with Firefox here...

There was a post recently about how YouTube uses depreciated web APIs and then polyfills them to every browser that isn't chrome so YouTube loads slow on non chrome browsers.

True, one of them is document.registerElement()

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening! Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted! Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not workin…

Classic: You get what you measure. But years ago the same thing happened to me at Apple. I was fixing bugs in every part of a major framework to help SnowLeopard ship only to get passed over for a minor promotion because I wasn't "critical on any one project". I thought it was especially ironic since SnowLeopard was supposed to be a stability/performance release only to get massively delayed by people "shipping" thin…

Your bosses may be clueless, but at least folks at HN - that is actual Apple customers - really appreciate your hard work. It is thanks to people like you many of us still use Apple hardware.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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A week or two after reverting back to the usable gmail, Google notified me they would switch my Google apps mail to the new gmail in a popup on the corner. It presented me with two options: Now, Delay One Week. Instead of choosing one, I adblocked the notification. Two weeks later I'm still on the old gmail that responds to clicks. Hoping it never changes.

You just need to be careful not to accidentally log out.

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Classic: You get what you measure. But years ago the same thing happened to me at Apple. I was fixing bugs in every part of a major framework to help SnowLeopard ship only to get passed over for a minor promotion because I wasn't "critical on any one project". I thought it was especially ironic since SnowLeopard was supposed to be a stability/performance release only to get massively delayed by people "shipping" thin…

Your bosses may be clueless, but at least folks at HN - that is actual Apple customers - really appreciate your hard work. It is thanks to people like you many of us still use Apple hardware.

> Actual Apple customers I mean, I get what you're attempting to say, but this is so delusional when looking at the most successful business in the world that it's almost farcical.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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I hope it was the result of plenty of well-intentioned individual business decisions, such as Gmail now working offline in a first-class way, and relying on (presumably more complex and slower) web technologies to make that happen. I mean, the new Gmail is supporting a lot more features (including ones brought from Inbox), so a total architecture rewrite was probably necessary. BUT -- at the same time it's super-sad,…

and think of what Chrome did for JavaScript performance I think that's partly what contributed to this slowdown --- faster JS execution to a browser is basically like faster hardware to a native app, thus reducing the impetus to optimise the JS code itself. Imagine if hardware wasn't getting any faster (we're close to that already) and browsers still used regular intepretive JS execution like IE6 instead of JIT'ing.…

That's correct. On the other hand, I see many people sheepishly accepting slow page loads and overall unresponsiveness of today's web apps because - apart from a few slim ones - the majority seems to be equally sluggish, loading tons of JS, webfonts (before the page gets loaded!) and what have you. Many people somehow got convinced that it has to be that way.
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