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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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Welcome to 2018, friend, where we have several orders of magnitude more computing power and somehow everything is less responsive. It's all accomplished through an advanced process called "Software Engineering".

More specifically, sluggish websites seem to result from the popularity of "responsive design".

Responsive design isn't to blame at all. The "Javascript all the things" approach is to blame.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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More specifically, sluggish websites seem to result from the popularity of "responsive design".

Responsive design isn't to blame at all. The "Javascript all the things" approach is to blame.

Partly agree. It’s misuse of JavaScript, or excessive use of it. JS apps can definitely be built lean and fast. It’s just that people don’t know when to stop.

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Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening! Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted! Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not workin…

As someone who works at a company similar to Google (not FAANG, but just below), this is hilariously accurate. > You cannot get promoted beyond a certain level in this place unless you... YES! It's soooo not about smarts/(true) impact/anything truly relevant - it's about racing to the bottom via launches, and crazy ways to generate revenue. I find is so funny looking back, that pre-undergrad-graduation, I thought pro…

Which big company starts with "N"? I can only think of Nintendo..

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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As someone who works at a company similar to Google (not FAANG, but just below), this is hilariously accurate. > You cannot get promoted beyond a certain level in this place unless you... YES! It's soooo not about smarts/(true) impact/anything truly relevant - it's about racing to the bottom via launches, and crazy ways to generate revenue. I find is so funny looking back, that pre-undergrad-graduation, I thought pro…

Which big company starts with "N"? I can only think of Nintendo..

Nvidia? Netflix?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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As someone who works at a company similar to Google (not FAANG, but just below), this is hilariously accurate. > You cannot get promoted beyond a certain level in this place unless you... YES! It's soooo not about smarts/(true) impact/anything truly relevant - it's about racing to the bottom via launches, and crazy ways to generate revenue. I find is so funny looking back, that pre-undergrad-graduation, I thought pro…

Which big company starts with "N"? I can only think of Nintendo..

Netflix?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who works at a company similar to Google (not FAANG, but just below), this is hilariously accurate. > You cannot get promoted beyond a certain level in this place unless you... YES! It's soooo not about smarts/(true) impact/anything truly relevant - it's about racing to the bottom via launches, and crazy ways to generate revenue. I find is so funny looking back, that pre-undergrad-graduation, I thought pro…

Which big company starts with "N"? I can only think of Nintendo..

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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25.3KB, 2 seconds That's what the size of a webmail app should be measured in --- kilobytes, not megabytes. A megabyte of code is a lot , and I'd guess a lot of developers just don't have the intuition of how much that is; to put it into perspective, this is an entire operating system in 1.44MB: http://menuetos.net/

Went to test Fastmail after some other poster suggested it. Granted, inbox is empty, but feels way faster that gmail, on par with basic gmail, with more functionality. No cache reload: 28 requests, 114KB, 2.45 seconds. With cache: 28 requests, 12KB, 2.65 seconds. Funny: UI seems ready after 1 second, but there's an eventsource request that dwarfs the rest in the waterfall, taking the rest of the time. Edit: playing a…

Thanks for the informative benchmark. I am (slowly) considering alternatives, are you also considering making the jump?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

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What aggravated me most is that sometimes clicking on a button has no effect. First I swapped to the HTML only version of gmail but found it too limited. I have now been using Thunderbird for a week or two. It is not perfect, but it actually works quite well. Plus you can have a little calendar view for the day's events on the side.

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This exactly. On Firefox Nightly, time to first interaction for me is 30 seconds. I've found myself going to gmail.com, searching for something, and then waiting 30 seconds for "Loading..."to transform to "Something's not right". I've just started doing all reading on the Android app. It's still easier for me to write at my laptop than on my phone, so this miserable experience happens to me multiple times a week. I'v…

Use an IMAP client.

That is a solution to my problem. Thanks for the tip.
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