Yep I posted something similar earlier https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18284264
Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
> about 285 requests (19MB) before I can compose. This is insane. So I went to test it. 358 requests, 6.3MB, 20 seconds till full load. Compared to the standard, really old view ( https://support.google.com/mail/answer/15049?hl=en ): 14 requests, 25.3KB, 2 seconds. Edit: fans were spinning hard, so I opened the task manager: after CPU went down from ~90% tab is using 600-700MB, stable, with the dev console open, 400-…
Jeez, you weren't kidding. ~2.5MB on Chrome and ~5.5MB on FF transferred, which uncompresses to >20MB and takes around 20 seconds to become responsive.
For me it's fast, lots of requests (200+) but only 600kb loaded. UI feels fine / snappy and I can compose within seconds.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#123Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening! Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted! Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not workin…
Classic: You get what you measure. But years ago the same thing happened to me at Apple. I was fixing bugs in every part of a major framework to help SnowLeopard ship only to get passed over for a minor promotion because I wasn't "critical on any one project". I thought it was especially ironic since SnowLeopard was supposed to be a stability/performance release only to get massively delayed by people "shipping" thin…
Maintenance is thankless work - it's that way in just about every industry around, short of total disaster no one is going to congratulate you for making something work the way it was supposed to work.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#124All snark aside... You get what you pay for. I am slowly moving away from Google services. Paying in some cases reduces functions you might be used to, but also introduces freedom of ownership (well, maybe). But overall we are spoiled and I prefer using non mainstream services now.
imagine a world where user experience is modulated proportional to revenue generated through the user, to subtextually train us to spend money in the way they like. >You get what you pay for Could you try disabling google ads, buying a couple of products and report back if it improves the user experience?
Its just too easy to setup your own mail server these days.
I moved to my own domain, and use emacs + mu4e and have had zero problems. I do still have my old gmail address forwarded to my mail server and can reply when needed.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#125I was trying out GSuite last week and used the Google Admin console and had the exact same experience.
You click on options then you wait 2-5 seconds for the menu to load or the option to expand.
Coupled with the poor UX I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about the time they spend managing these systems, it's as bad as Office365 but it's damn close now.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#126A week or two after reverting back to the usable gmail, Google notified me they would switch my Google apps mail to the new gmail in a popup on the corner. It presented me with two options: Now, Delay One Week. Instead of choosing one, I adblocked the notification. Two weeks later I'm still on the old gmail that responds to clicks. Hoping it never changes.
Damn it. I didn’t know you can do this. I’m still not used to the new design. There is something odd about the new interface that isn’t pleasing to the eyes.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#127I haven’t come across better mail UI than Inbox.
Inbox got demoted, new Gmail got promoted.
If what I was told is true, then at Google, data beats opinions, that is, they have data to back up those decisions.
Now, why am I not convinced this is the case over here?
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#128Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening! Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted! Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not workin…
Classic: You get what you measure. But years ago the same thing happened to me at Apple. I was fixing bugs in every part of a major framework to help SnowLeopard ship only to get passed over for a minor promotion because I wasn't "critical on any one project". I thought it was especially ironic since SnowLeopard was supposed to be a stability/performance release only to get massively delayed by people "shipping" thin…
Thanks for contributing that to Snow Leopard. It is my all time favorite OS X release precisely because it felt solid and fast, and didn’t add a bunch of useless new cruft to the interface or mess up anything I relied on. I haven’t felt that with any release since. It’s a depressingly rare feeling with something as fundamental as an OS.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#129Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening! Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted! Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not workin…
Allo is canned ? wait, what - I use it every day !
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
#130Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening! Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted! Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not workin…
As someone who works at a company similar to Google (not FAANG, but just below), this is hilariously accurate.
> You cannot get promoted beyond a certain level in this place unless you...
YES! It's soooo not about smarts/(true) impact/anything truly relevant - it's about racing to the bottom via launches, and crazy ways to generate revenue. I find is so funny looking back, that pre-undergrad-graduation, I thought promotions came via actually doing great things.
> people internally usually warn about this shit, complain about it, file bugs about shitty performance, etc. It is ALL ignored
It's hilarious how L2s and L3s truly just don't give a damn about the opinions of those working at the company (first-level employees and those just above that)
After this job, I AM DONE with this big company ish. I'll leave that to the new-grads who still believe you get promoted by being smart ;)
rant over