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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

#51

I can’t stand the new gmail to the point where I check my email only once a day. Every time I open that interface I get enraged. I am a UX designer and the new UI is a total clusterfuck - something you’d expect to fire someone over. Big G really messed this one up and I suspect many feel this way. If they have any sense left at all they’ll add the old view option back or revert completely.

I mostly check gmail on my phone. It's awful on the laptop here lately, which I tend to blame on the crappy laptop.

Have you compared the phone or tablet version to the PC or laptop version?

Just curious.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

#53
It actually works great for me. Firefox Nightly on 2016 MacBook pro. Curious why experiences differ so much - I wonder if it's the difference between folks (like me) who leave the browser open always with Gmail in a pinned tab vs people who load Gmail only as needed. Although that can't be it entirely, because I restart Firefox roughly daily to apply nightly updates. Maybe some plugin interference? I run ublock but that's about it.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

#54
Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening!

Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted!

Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not working, only works on chrome, or some such nonsense! This is the norm!

Why? Promotion. You cannot get promoted beyond a certain level in this place unless you "launch" something big.

So what do you get when you add of all these perverse incentives? Nine thousand, eight hundred, and eighty-three chat apps, and a never-ending chain of redesigns and relaunches so some people can get promoted.

Do you know how many bugs you need to fix to get promoted? Infinity. No matter how many you fix, it will never get you enough "impact" for promotion. Never.

How many useless redesigns do you need to launch to get promoted? ONE!

Extra fun: people internally usually warn about this shit, complain about it, file bugs about shitty performance, etc. It is ALL ignored. Most people who've been here for over a few years have given up filing bugs even. Because the reply is always the same: "you're not the target audience"!

And we all know it! We all do! Some quit when they realize it, others just begin optimizing for promotion as opposed to optimizing for what is good for the user or the company. And this is how you get new gmail, for example.

EDIT: replaced underscores with proper profanity as had been requested

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

#55

Yes I have had equal experiences. It has directly lead me to begin switching to Fastmail on my own domain because I'm tired of this nonsense (along with their constant nagging to switch to the new version or chrome).

Already switched to Fastmail, which has been excellent. It's nice to have successfully moved something off Google.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

#56
post #22

.... it works perfectly fine for me

Just had a click around to confirm, Chrome on a mac, everything is instantaneous. I thought they must have been heavily pre-loading it opened messages so quickly, but I checked the network tab and it's making requests.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

#57
post #43

Yes. I was complaining into the air on twitter, and their support responded by asking me to clear the cache and cookie. I told them: no man, it's not cache and cookies. You're loading too much stuff on initialization. It takes about 45 seconds for page load, and it's not until 1m37s that I can compose an email. You're making about 285 requests (19MB) before I can compose. That's the size of a long pop song on iTunes!…

> about 285 requests (19MB) before I can compose.

This is insane. So I went to test it. 358 requests, 6.3MB, 20 seconds till full load.

Compared to the standard, really old view (https://support.google.com/mail/answer/15049?hl=en): 14 requests, 25.3KB, 2 seconds.

Edit: fans were spinning hard, so I opened the task manager: after CPU went down from ~90% tab is using 600-700MB, stable, with the dev console open, 400-500MB closed. 400MB to check my email.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?

#58
Isn't that how modern web design works? Take away features, move stuff around randomly and make things slower?

Google has got really far away from their initial versions of GMail and Maps. They used to be lean and right on and now they are just a bloated mess.

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