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Wired Interviews Bill Gates (1996) [video]

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Re: Wired Interviews Bill Gates (1996) [video]

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I always find it fascinating to compare just how large the tech industry has become since this era, when Microsoft was already regarded as something close to a giant in the industry. Microsoft sales 1995: $6.1 billion ($10b today) Google is about 12x larger. AWS by itself is about 3x larger. Facebook is 5x larger. Salesforce is similar in size. Oracle is 4x larger. SAP is 2x larger. VMWare is closing in on 1x that si…

It was considered more than something close to a giant. If anything, it was considered scarier than anything we have now. Back then there was nobody else. We've gone from a monopoly to an oligopoly (ish) which in some ways feels less scary. It's hard to overestimate Microsoft dominance in the 90s. If there was a wiff of them entering a category, the players in that space would be in trouble (similar to Amazon today,…

> If anything, it was considered scarier than anything we have now.

Yes, I recall those days intimately. It was hysteria and laughable even then. Breathless magazine articles claiming Microsoft was going to dominate everything, set up toll roads on the Internet, dominate e-commerce, publishing, media, and so on. None of it was even remotely feasible or credible.

The fear that briefly surrounded Microsoft's reign was almost entirely baseless hysteria. Its preeminence and monopoly abuse era lasted for six or seven years. Facebook has been abusing US consumers with its social monopoly for longer than that already, as has Google with its search monopoly (they're at least a decade plus in now). Both Facebook and Google are not only drastically more powerful and wealthy (greater financial resources by at least a factor of 10) than Microsoft in 1995-96, their reach is far beyond anything Microsoft had at that time. World-wide PC sales in 1995 were a whopping 70 million.

Google and Facebook touch nearly all corners of the globe, in real-time, at all times. Billions upon billions of people. Microsoft's reach in 1995-96? Extremely slow in nature, and less than ~150 million people globally.

Ability to throw or bias elections and control global commerce? Microsoft had almost none of that type of power with their operating system, or IE. Extraordinary amounts of commercial activity and referral flow directly through Google and Facebook products/platforms each day. Google's algorithm changes have dramatic effects on businesses. Android is a far larger gatekeeper and toll road than Microsoft could have dreamed of in 1995. YouTube by itself is roughly worth as much as all of Microsoft was in March 1995 (and has dramatically greater influence and reach, along with a monopoly position in what it does), Instagram is worth even more.

And Netscape, Microsoft's most famous 'victim'? (although not the thing that really got them in anti-trust trouble) The notion of building a large business around charging for a consumer browser was a dead-end. Nothing that Chrome or any other free browser wouldn't have put an end to later. Netscape was always going to die, short of pulling off a magic in-flight engine change to enterprise software (which they tried and failed at).

There's no chance Microsoft killed off more competitors in those days than Amazon has. How many small and mid size retailers has Amazon put under as it has added $100+ billion to its retail sales? Given the very low consumer & economic growth of the past decade, the tally would have to be thousands of businesses across the US. There are radically more retail stores of all sizes across the US than software companies. It's impossible for Microsoft to ever compete with the business rival destruction that Amazon must inherently cause as it grows ever larger. How many physical stores will Amazon destroy as it adds its next $100 billion in retail sales? It's not detracting from Walmart's sales, that's not shrinking, so it's coming from everybody else.

Re: Wired Interviews Bill Gates (1996) [video]

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> Neither FB nor GOOG have become such monopolies in that type of business they were talking about. What Gates said hold true today. They're very close to that. And the same is true to other content, e.g. Spotify, Amazon Kiddle, Netflix for films, YouTube for video, etc. People still go to other sources, but increasingly less so, and those sources all increasingly fringe (Daring Fireball? Compared to Facebook and the…

> Gates (as quoted below): "There will be no content club in my life time with $4 billion revenue...you are on drugs if you think that". > Meanwhile there are like 5 "content clubs" with much higher revenue... Good CEOs and Chairpersons don't blather about things that can adversely affect their company. Do you recall what happened after Musk tweeted that funding was secured?

Gates liked to make strong definitive statements and have his employees convince him he was wrong. Arguing back was rewarded with promotions provided you were right. It was a culture that selected heavily for type A personalities.

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> The question was about the overall size of the industry. And to me it seems he was spot on. The whole world and industry had to change before anyone could achieve that. Your own links tell how much the growth has been in recent years. The interview was in 1996 .

Yes, he assessed the situation back then correctly. That was not hard to do. He said it himself in the interview "do the math" to indicate how this was a no brainer. What he didn't foresee was that the world would change in a way that makes a +4$ billion "content club" business viable. The journalists don't put their cards on the table. Were they pressing him so much because they thought a +4$ billion "content club"…

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Re: Wired Interviews Bill Gates (1996) [video]

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"There will be no content club in my life time with $4 billion revenue...you are on drugs if you think that". Netflix revenue last year was $11.6 billion. Fascinating interview.

To me if I look at the bigger picture of what he was saying however - he was comparing it to their software division which brought in $4 billion. If you look at where that division is today it is FAR more than $4 billion and dwarfs Netflix's revenue.

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Funny to hear him talk about Encarta. I had totally forgotten that that used to exist.

It's funny, at around the 32 minute mark Gates even touches on 'free information publishing', which seems to surprise the journalists. This 'free information publishing' would later replace his Encarta, which was costing ~$30m alone to translate.

What a great video! It's fascinating to see the perspectives on the media, content, advertising, etc, in contrast to our current ad-driven world.

Re: Wired Interviews Bill Gates (1996) [video]

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Wow, is this the original source? Such a low view count for what I feel is a very interesting look into a more casual Bill Gates. This seems much more spontaneous than the usual videos we see of him, and it's pretty cool to see the kind of thoughts he has before being filtered into prepared statements for the public.

Well if the interview was in 1996 and YouTube was created in 2005 I would say it was available elsewhere first Also the YouTube video itself was just uploaded a couple of weeks ago.

From the video description:

> I don't think we ever did anything with the interview. I had completely forgotten I had video'ed it.

Re: Wired Interviews Bill Gates (1996) [video]

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The internet in the middle of Monteverde rain forest in Costa Rica was faster than the internet at your average coffeeshop in L.A. That shocked me.

The US ranks in the top 10 to 15 globally on average consumer Internet speed. Costa Rica is below #100. About 1/5 to 1/6 the average speeds in the US, with US speeds increasing faster year-over-year despite the difference. Costa Rica is comparable to what you see in Iran or Nigeria, around four to five mbps. Your premise comes across as dramatically overstated (even if you did encounter a coffee shop in LA with poor…

It would sound dramatically overstated to me as well if I had not experienced it.

I've worked at almost every coffee shop on the West Side of Los Angeles, Santa Monica, Culver, Venice.

With the exception of Starbucks who has some sort of deal worked out with Google the average connection speed is 5Mbs - 10Mbs.

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