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Phew! That would be a net positive for the world, long term, to bear less of a greasy footprint from american startup antics.
No, it would kill all American software/web startups by limiting them to 999,999 users, unless they have millions of dollars in VC funding that they can use to comply with this law. It would strangle the startup community, as most startups (even those with 1M+ users) can never hope to have the resources to comply. You have to remember that the reason that startups get any funding is because investors hope that they w…
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No, it would kill all American software/web startups by limiting them to 999,999 users, unless they have millions of dollars in VC funding that they can use to comply with this law. It would strangle the startup community, as most startups (even those with 1M+ users) can never hope to have the resources to comply. You have to remember that the reason that startups get any funding is because investors hope that they w…
So no more Facebooks, Tweeters, Ubers, Instagrams, Snapchats, etc? Sign me up!
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I hear this a lot and have never had anyone explain what laws were broken by those executives.
Fraud. The ratings agencies lied about the credit worthiness of the mortgages that they bundled.
Skipping back to private consumer data, a law that clearly states that executives go to jail when there is a breach of private consumer data would likely increase the chances that the executives will pay better attention to what data is collected, how data is stored, and how data is protected.
Tangential topic: an interesting regulatory idea would be to have mandatory jail time for all executives (and board members) of a company of a minimum size that is successfully sued in a class action for more than X dollars. Make it strictly liable so that no direct knowledge is required to convict so as to punish executives who allow their companies to harm the public. If an executive allows their company to harm the public, then that person is not fit to serve as an executive.
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I corrected my And to an OR so yes, good point but overall, it still doesn't impact "entire startup community". There are plenty of tech. businesses that don't hit 50 Million in revenue AND don't have a million users. I am talking about those.
True, but the issue is that getting 1M+ installs isn't under the control of the developer. Sometimes things go viral - look at Flappy Bird. Under this law, that guy (if he were in the US) could be looking at decades in prison unless he took enough investment money to comply. This law also uses a very broad definition of "personal information" that could possibly include IP addresses. So it does have an effect on the…
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I corrected my And to an OR so yes, good point but overall, it still doesn't impact "entire startup community". There are plenty of tech. businesses that don't hit 50 Million in revenue AND don't have a million users. I am talking about those.
True, but the issue is that getting 1M+ installs isn't under the control of the developer. Sometimes things go viral - look at Flappy Bird. Under this law, that guy (if he were in the US) could be looking at decades in prison unless he took enough investment money to comply. This law also uses a very broad definition of "personal information" that could possibly include IP addresses. So it does have an effect on the…
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So the app developer has to be able to demonstrate they followed some form of best practice with regard to user data. I’m having trouble thinking of any other type of work that manages to escape all liability.
So the app developer has to be able to demonstrate they followed some form of best practice with regard to user data. I think you're downplaying the requirements of this law. You should read it, it's pretty onerous and carries decades in prison with it - even GDPR didn't go that far. One interesting caveat, however, is that at least as written, I can't find anything imposing penalties for simply not filing the report…
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What I mean is that it's become a major part of the US's economy. Globally, this industry probably generates 100s of billions of dollars, and those companies mostly spend their revenue on more software, more hardware, more research, more computer scientists, more computer engineers, etc. Indirectly, probably almost all of us here are partially paid from the ad-network-value-chain. And, what about all of the open sour…
Sounds like a labor mis-allocation bubble. Bubbles burst. Furthermore bubbles should burst, for the health of the economy.
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#168This would probably mean more compensation at executive level for the increased risks!
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I am not an expert bill reader but seems like this loophole is covered as there is another point that says : "(ii) is not substantially owned, oper ated, or controlled by a person, partner ship, or corporation that does not meet the 6 requirements under clause"
Contracting it out still seems to bypass the regulation
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I am not an expert bill reader but seems like this loophole is covered as there is another point that says : "(ii) is not substantially owned, oper ated, or controlled by a person, partner ship, or corporation that does not meet the 6 requirements under clause"
Contracting it out still seems to bypass the regulation