It’s amazing to see Americans blindly trust their government and media even after several systemic incident
Over China? Yes.
But do you also realize where you are getting all your news about China from?
China used Huawei to hack network, says report
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Re: China used Huawei to hack network, says report
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One government is vastly more transparent than the other. One company is government subsidized and the others are not. Hard to make a genuine privacy comparison with a straight face.
Secret Fisa courts aren't exactly transparent.
What kind of transparency would you like to see from them? For some things, like active secret investigations how would you expect them to act transparently and publicly?
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I got a one plus, and now i'm wondering... But let's be honest, iphones and android parts are manufactured in china. There are most probably a lot of spying hardware we don't know about that call the mother land.
Do you think Apple blindly trusts the hardware that comes from their factories? I have no evidence either way, but I would be very surprised if their hardware experts in the US didn't tear down and verify the parts that get shipped to them, like they did with the SuperMicro motherboards. The idea that there is a lot of spying hardware in an iPhone that Apple doesn't know about is an extraordinary claim.
Also, this person's argument is basically... we have proof that Huawei spies on behalf of the Chinese government/military but that's not as bad as a hypothetical where 2 major American corporations who spend tons of money on security do no due diligence to protect their hardware from security breaches from the exact same Chinese government/military. It's an absurd argument conflating a fact with a guess.
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#25> Don't think about this in terms of just governments tracking you. Consider if you have any work emails containing company secrets in them. Consider if you have 2FA apps installed that you would use to unlock or change your work password. And since it was almost certainly the Chinese Intel/Military that helps Huawei and other companies, you can be sure that whatever information Huawei gets access to doesn't need to…
Yes. Buy Apple or Google's phones instead. They would never leak customer data for the US government. Oh wait...
It's popular to hate the US government and US tech companies, but the US government and US tech companies are far more ethical than the Chinese.
It's ridiculous to assert otherwise.
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Over China? Yes.
But do you also realize where you are getting all your news about China from?
Do you have proof that any of the news about China (from tons of different sources, including other countries that are not America) is propaganda or not accurate? You're implying a global conspiracy is afoot to besmirch the good Chinese name when everyone has known for a while that they're generally bad actors behind the scenes when it comes to spying and stealing of secrets/IP/tech.
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One government is vastly more transparent than the other. One company is government subsidized and the others are not. Hard to make a genuine privacy comparison with a straight face.
Already forgot PRISM ? No wonder they do stuff like this when the public attention span is so small.
The Snowden revelations caused tech companies to implement strong encryption for consumer facing communications. Apple, Google, and Facebook all offer encryption protocols that now piss off the US government and caused friction between the private and public sectors.
People saying "but PRISM" have missed the past five years of US politics. Even Obama was getting mad at US tech.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
One government is vastly more transparent than the other. One company is government subsidized and the others are not. Hard to make a genuine privacy comparison with a straight face.
Already forgot PRISM ? No wonder they do stuff like this when the public attention span is so small.
Don't hurt yourself reaching.
Re: China used Huawei to hack network, says report
#29Anyone have a summary or better source? Paywall is strong with this one.
China felt generous to build an entire new building for African Union. About $200 Million cost, and it came complete with bugs (as in spy ones) and backdoor-ed network that sent the data to China every night.
NSA would have done the same, that's what countries do. There I said it. But the story, for me, is more about Huawei doing whatever their owner wants. Stay away from them
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But do you also realize where you are getting all your news about China from?
Do you have proof that any of the news about China (from tons of different sources, including other countries that are not America) is propaganda or not accurate? You're implying a global conspiracy is afoot to besmirch the good Chinese name when everyone has known for a while that they're generally bad actors behind the scenes when it comes to spying and stealing of secrets/IP/tech.
Global conspiracy is not improbable. Think about Cold War, the drastic culture difference and the fear from the fact westerners know little about China