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Why I'm Ditching Android

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Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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As they say, when there's a will - there's a way.

The author clearly did not evaluate all of the alternatives, and simply jumped from one walled garden to another.

Bloatware, adware, and battery life are cited as his reasons. But he could have rooted his phone in 5 minutes then deleted all the bloatware and google apps in an instant. Add microG and adaway on top, and you have a nice ad-free system with much better battery life.

All he had to do was research.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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I think you can say that if privacy is important to you, then you are probably more aligned with Apple's business plan. The article says as much. It's not like Apple are being more magnanimous, it's just that they don't profit off of user tracking so they use it as marketing ammo against Google users. As a developer, it constantly burns my biscuits that Apple software only runs on Apple hardware. The fact that I have…

To some degree, a company that makes money of devices rather than ads will always charge more for the devices since they can’t really sell the device at or below cost and then make the profit from showing ads to their users.

I think Apple's primary source of revenue is selling dongles to fix all their hardware incompatibility issues.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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It's discontinued, but you can still purchase the device (for fairly low price too!). On top of that, based on Apple's track record for software support, you can expect support for at least another year, if not more. Note that the iPhone 5S, a phone released in 2013 on iOS7, received the iOS12 update not too long ago.

Where can they be bought? Via a cellphone provider or online retailer?

I'm not sure what HN policies are on sharing retailer links, but amazon, ebay, ali-express are all retailers that sell the iPhone SE. The major US cellular providers also still sell the SE, though at a much higher price.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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> I also tend to agree with the OP that the iPhone SE is a reasonable size, unlike every Android phone on the market. This the single biggest reason I abandoned android for iPhone: A premium phone in a reasonable form factor.

I grabbed the SE before it went out of Apple stock recently and because I also loved the form factor. I ended up upgrading to the XS because the SE would drop calls consistently in my downstairs home office. The XS has to-date never dropped a call for me. Just thought I’d mention it for anyone else who frequents lower signal areas.

I am not surprised.

http://vbn.aau.dk/files/240065248/Mobile_Phone_Antenna_Perfo...

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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post #111

As they say, when there's a will - there's a way. The author clearly did not evaluate all of the alternatives, and simply jumped from one walled garden to another. Bloatware, adware, and battery life are cited as his reasons. But he could have rooted his phone in 5 minutes then deleted all the bloatware and google apps in an instant. Add microG and adaway on top, and you have a nice ad-free system with much better ba…

I built Android phones for a living for many years and I could probably root a device very quickly and get it up and running just like in the old days, but I seriously cannot be bothered anymore. Only viable alternative for me right now is an Apple device. I wish there was an alternative that just worked out of the box - and I even work for Apple these days...

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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I'm with you that he might have tried a little harder, but he does address this, briefly. /e/ might be a better fit for him.

I think addresses it succinctly. If you remove google from Android, some apps won’t work because they are ecpecting those services. This isn’t the fault of the app developer. If you are using linage and /e/ you can’t really add “works with all android apps” as a check in the pro column. You’re getting even more fragmented than Android which is already much more than IOS. To each his own but let’s be honest about what…

Agreed, but if he's already ditching all his apps then there's no single app that seems absolutely required...

Some core apps have replacements on the other side, like maps, might be why a full leap is better than half measures. /e/ should help with those. Ideally. Maybe it's not there yet.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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post #108
post #32

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It's discontinued, but you can still purchase the device (for fairly low price too!). On top of that, based on Apple's track record for software support, you can expect support for at least another year, if not more. Note that the iPhone 5S, a phone released in 2013 on iOS7, received the iOS12 update not too long ago.

Where can they be bought? Via a cellphone provider or online retailer?

A quick check of Amazon brought up a hundred or so resellers. Unfortunately you can no longer get them via Apple refurb program, but an online retailer like Amazon is probably the next best thing if you are careful to vet the seller.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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Really in line with my own thinking. I bought an iPhone SE 6 months ago for the reasons he stated. The one thing I dislike is that you don't have a Finder type of functionality. But there are some 3rd party apps that do it well enough (I think one was called Documents). Also it is easy to find a protectable huge case for these phones since they already exists for eons in the digital industry. I sometimes drop my phon…

The Apple app "Files" (which might not be installed by default) may be of interest as Finder-like functionality - it lets you browse, search and manage files stored on the device, in iCloud and in 3rd party services (Dropbox, Google Drive, FTP/SCP via an app like Transmit, etc.)

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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Isn't LineageOS microG already google free?

Did you read the author’s issues with that?

The author talks about lineage, but not micro g, which does sound designed to solve his exact issue.

"Android experience relies heavily on Google's Play Services. The microG project creates an alternative to installing Gapps, which install and execute closed-source blobs on our phones. MicroG however requires a patch called "signature spoofing"..."

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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I've been coming around to this way of thinking more and more lately. Apple has a clear business model that involves selling high-end phones and other hardware and taking a percentage of app sales, not selling me to advertisers. I've found at least 5 different privacy settings buried in various places around the Android menus in a confusing way (instead of just having a single switch in the privacy settings menu), an…

Have you considered a Blackberry? I’m using an android BB from maybe the first run, few years old, and it’s got all the privacy I need up front.
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