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Why I'm Ditching Android

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Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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Post by rapnie »

orliesaurus wrote: post #5

I was hoping the author was going to list alternative stable mobile OSes with privacy and users in mind, or maybe lay down the reasons for starting a project hard forking an existing OS or something...but he literally just said he wants to move to iOS??? Honestly, (and personally) I feel better knowing that I am running an Android ROM with publicly available code on Github than any iOS any day

I think /e/ ( https://e.foundation) promising in that respect, and in the longer run maybe puri.sm Librem5.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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Post by epmaybe »

Kirth wrote: post #7

A bit painful to read considering the iPhone SE-series is now discontinued. (Despite that the SE is still a very good phone. Wish more manufacturers made devices with these dimensions and polish.)

It's discontinued, but you can still purchase the device (for fairly low price too!). On top of that, based on Apple's track record for software support, you can expect support for at least another year, if not more. Note that the iPhone 5S, a phone released in 2013 on iOS7, received the iOS12 update not too long ago.

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Post by pokemongoaway »

diminish wrote: post #23

I won't ditch Android for Apple. Apple is restricted, Safari is a tragedy for the web and prices are too expensive for the value. Somehow I dislike everything Apple represents, and reminds. The design, the simplicity which comes from restrictiveness. Even the lightest Linux window manager like i3wn, is better than all of os/x does. I will just wait till a true open source option comes.

We just need a de-Googled fork to become popular and supported. For example CopperheadOS.

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Post by kingosticks »

qaute wrote: post #21

"I tried replacing Android with Lineage OS on a old phone I had. Whilst that meant I didn’t have any Google Apps on my device, it was still Android underneath. Also many apps kept complaining that I didn’t have Google services on the device." An alternative is to install microG [1], which reimplements assorted Google services. YMMV, but I've been able to run ~70% of all Android apps with no problems. [1] https://micr…

What's the best hardware supported by microG? My current phone is not supported and while my previous one is, it's an original Moto G; I don't think I could handle returning to those specs, not to mention the ageing battery.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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Post by sergiotapia »

I made the opposite move last month. Ditched my iphone 6+ and went with a Samsung Galaxy S9+.

Apple soured me with their bullshit around throttling the CPU to make the battery last the same. No wonder my phone was performing like shit.

But here's the bad news, this new phone I got is still not so hot. I still run out of battery despite working from home and only using the phone for google maps and calendar/slack when I'm out of office. I don't game on it or anything.

For my next phone I want to find a much more inexpensive phone, swappable battery, with a long-ass battery time. I would go with a Nokia but I don't know if their classic phone supports google maps.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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Post by muro »

pseudoandy wrote: post #24
wowamit wrote: post #9

To say that I'm ditching Android is a pretty incomplete statement - because there is no one Android. It really matter which flavour of Android we are talking about. And which specific device. For example, the bloatware might not be a problem on a unlocked Pixel device. At this point, both iOS and Android are in pretty stable states. It comes down to individual preferences. Author primarily seems to have an issue with…

I do not have any extra bloatware from any manufacturer, due to the fact that I run a Xiaomi Mi A1 as my daily driver, but I still would appreciate the choice to be able to manually install only the apps that I would use, e.g. Firefox instead of Chrome. I do have 64Gb of internal storage, but I obsess about every lost megabyte due to something I don't use( even when disabled or not used, Chrome still runs functions o…

Chrome is the webview for all apps, might be tricky to remove.

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Post by mikestew »

wowamit wrote: post #9

To say that I'm ditching Android is a pretty incomplete statement - because there is no one Android. It really matter which flavour of Android we are talking about. And which specific device. For example, the bloatware might not be a problem on a unlocked Pixel device. At this point, both iOS and Android are in pretty stable states. It comes down to individual preferences. Author primarily seems to have an issue with…

To say that I'm ditching Android is a pretty incomplete statement - because there is no one Android.

I’m sure the author would be glad to add that to the list of complaints. One OS might say, “Surprise! You got the wrong version/model/puppy for your use case!”. The other one won’t.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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Post by pier25 »

wowamit wrote: post #9

To say that I'm ditching Android is a pretty incomplete statement - because there is no one Android. It really matter which flavour of Android we are talking about. And which specific device. For example, the bloatware might not be a problem on a unlocked Pixel device. At this point, both iOS and Android are in pretty stable states. It comes down to individual preferences. Author primarily seems to have an issue with…

> the bloatware might not be a problem on a unlocked Pixel device

Or an Android One device.

Re: Why I'm Ditching Android

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Post by wrkronmiller »

aikah wrote: post #18
Kirth wrote: post #7

A bit painful to read considering the iPhone SE-series is now discontinued. (Despite that the SE is still a very good phone. Wish more manufacturers made devices with these dimensions and polish.)

Yeah, the SE was best value/price phone. I have hard time understanding why Apple stopped producing it. The form factor was the best as well, I can't stand bigger phones personally. I told my parents to buy an Android initially but ultimately they moved to the iPhone because they thought it was simpler and better than Android. To me the fact that I can code my own apps with Java without having to buy a mac is a plus,…

iOS can also be pretty fun to develop for if you have a mac and xcode.

IMHO iOS is good for developers who are okay with coloring inside the lines set out by Apple. The developer experience isn't perfect by any stretch, but writing personal apps/utilities in Swift using a package manager like Carthage is pretty painless.

Apple has some great features for de-centralization, such as the Multipeer Connectivity framework.

I think it depends a lot on where in the stack you want to work. If you want to customize your baseband or do system-level modifications then Android is the way to go. If you work higher up the stack, writing apps, then you might like iOS more than Android. I certainly did.

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