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Facebook Is Full of Emotional-Support Groups

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Re: Facebook Is Full of Emotional-Support Groups

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I'd never seen beyond the login screen of Facebook until a site I run started getting sporadic bursts of traffic from there, so I ventured in to try and find the links. I was stunned and devastated to discover how many thriving little communities there were in this niche area (local archeology), it's everything the open web was supposed to be but it has been walled off, completely invisible to outsiders, all for the…

Economies of scale, I guess? Easier to host there than to have dedicated hobbyists support the technology needs.

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I support online groups, however I'd prefer staying anonymous which simply isn't possible without faking your account on FB. Reddit provides similar functionality and let's you stay anon. There's subreddits for pretty much any situation: alcohol abuse, drug abuse, kids growing up with narcissistic parents, spouses living in sexless relationships, etc etc. I did some research into the topic after reading this: https:/…

Reddit is usually a crapshoot of quality. Maybe someone will have something for Y Combinator (et al) soon, that's more of a targeted platform for these types of things. Reddit and Facebook both suck at this.

From what I found when I was reading up on it the different support subs seemed to be really good at modding. What are your reasons for claiming this?

Re: Facebook Is Full of Emotional-Support Groups

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“For example, according to Lewis, the algorithm might keep showing a post whose question has been answered. And it might deprioritize posts from new members that don’t get much engagement—ensuring they get even less engagement in a form of algorithmic ghosting.”

Essentially the flaw with facebook’s entire system of selecting posts. When I recently posted on Facebook to my 2000 friends, the only people to react were mother and aunt. I am actually not that much of a loser, but you’d never know from my Facebook page.

FB have made Instagram the same way and I spent days looking at posts my friends made 4 days ago while not seeing their newest posts (this is especially annoying at conventions). I have a hard time believing that Facebook actually pays hundreds of engineers above market salaries to realize this sad customer abuse. It’s a serious waste of the potential of the Internet.

As far of the rest of the article, yes, Facebook has taken over the independent web forum. And yes, their software is inadequate (the usual total lack of features or confusing UI) but their reach is incomparable.

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If any Facebook employees are reading this, there's a really annoying "feature" that will show a list of suggested friends to add to a private group. I've accidentally added people to private groups by accidentally clicking a single time while scrolling. Imagine being in an AA group or HIV support group and adding your coworker to it on accident. Please change this.

It's disappointing to see stuff like this. It means that the decision makers don't dogfood their own features.

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If any Facebook employees are reading this, there's a really annoying "feature" that will show a list of suggested friends to add to a private group. I've accidentally added people to private groups by accidentally clicking a single time while scrolling. Imagine being in an AA group or HIV support group and adding your coworker to it on accident. Please change this.

It's disappointing to see stuff like this. It means that the decision makers don't dogfood their own features.

Or that their tiny bubble doesn’t know enough about the real world to be careful with things like this.

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If any Facebook employees are reading this, there's a really annoying "feature" that will show a list of suggested friends to add to a private group. I've accidentally added people to private groups by accidentally clicking a single time while scrolling. Imagine being in an AA group or HIV support group and adding your coworker to it on accident. Please change this.

Playing devil's advocate, I've found the feature useful for meme pages and university groups. However, I think they should add another tap to the process as it's too easy to send accidental invites on mobile.

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I support online groups, however I'd prefer staying anonymous which simply isn't possible without faking your account on FB. Reddit provides similar functionality and let's you stay anon. There's subreddits for pretty much any situation: alcohol abuse, drug abuse, kids growing up with narcissistic parents, spouses living in sexless relationships, etc etc. I did some research into the topic after reading this: https:/…

Reddit is usually a crapshoot of quality. Maybe someone will have something for Y Combinator (et al) soon, that's more of a targeted platform for these types of things. Reddit and Facebook both suck at this.

Although not nearly as specific or targeted, Stack Exchange runs a number of sites (interpersonal relationships, parenting, workplace) that usually have much higher quality questions and answers due to their strong moderation. I agree that there’s a void to be filled between Reddit and SE in terms of amount (and quality) of moderation, but both options are much less intrusive than Facebook and allow you to remain anonymous.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's disappointing to see stuff like this. It means that the decision makers don't dogfood their own features.

Or that their tiny bubble doesn’t know enough about the real world to be careful with things like this.

Yes. See also: Google

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I joined a group for T2 diabetes at some point because I have a stubborn friend that doesn’t want to receive proper treatment and I basically wanted to ask about available options. Next thing I know is that Facebook started giving me ads for diabetics. Having such an influential company know about your illnesses and sell that to advertisers or healthcare insurance agencies or credit agencies or god knows what else is…

That is absolutely terrifying. As far as I know, FB does not allow you to target users by the group they join. (pages targeting is allowed). Which means it is likely that the Facebook algorithm is doing that without even prompted by the advertiser. Did you visit a lot of links related to T2 diabetes? Another possibility is that the Facebook pixel could have helped the website target you again.

Facebook doesn’t allow you to target groups directly however it allows you to target interests. Interests are auto generated based on how you use Facebook (and that includes groups).

Re: Facebook Is Full of Emotional-Support Groups

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If any Facebook employees are reading this, there's a really annoying "feature" that will show a list of suggested friends to add to a private group. I've accidentally added people to private groups by accidentally clicking a single time while scrolling. Imagine being in an AA group or HIV support group and adding your coworker to it on accident. Please change this.

It's disappointing to see stuff like this. It means that the decision makers don't dogfood their own features.

Or they do dogfood, but the (flawed) engagement numbers support their next promo case.
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