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Re: Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

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May be people are disappointed with innovation in iPhones compared to previous years' or for the last few years, but every time I use my AirPods, I can't but feel good about the innovation it took to make it as easy to use and comfortable. * If I open the case near my phone, it automatically pairs and shoes battery levels. * They sound decent for earbuds (not in-ear plugs which I hate) * Lasts reasonable amount of ti…

I think their biggest innovation is making devices where everything just works. Look no further than any two year old who has been exposed to an iPad to see that their interfaces are super-intuitive. Plus, unlike most manufactures, they control all the hardware plus the software, so they can make sure that the entire experience is seamless.

> I think their biggest innovation is making devices where everything just works.

Unless you're holding it wrong.

Or trying to use it in some way contrary to corporate policy.

Or trying to fix it.

In the last two cases, you realize the rest of that aphorism: It Just Works For Apple.

Re: Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

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I’m not really sure I buy the premise - Apple has never been much of an inventor, instead being more of a “competent executor”. It’s true that Apple is likely to continue to increase its service offerings, but I don’t think that fundamentally changes the nature of the company. Since Apple has historically focused on executing extant ideas well, it’s quite possible that we won’t see any massive new markets until we kn…

I disagree, when apple released the iphone, they changed the face of what smart phones would ultimately become. The touch experience they pioneered really shouldn't be overlooked, and add that on to future technologies like the ipad, where both were deeply immersive devices that people were able to generate new and exiting feelings towards. Since then, apple has migrated from being a brand focused on the shear love o…

> Since Apple has historically focused on executing extant ideas well...

> I disagree, when apple released the iphone, they changed the face of what smart phones would ultimately become.

It looks like you're actually agreeing: They (Apple) executed on an extant idea (smart phones) so well that they changed the face of the industry (app stores, etc etc).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows isn't cool because of BSODs, constant restarts and waiting for it to update, and Candy Crush advertisements in the start menu. And the hibernate/sleep function worked terribly (at least for the longest time, don't know if it's fixed now), compared to Apple's fold down the screen when you want to go and open it back up to what you were doing and it works all the time.

That too. Microsoft allows venders with terrible design teams to sell their product and customers associate Windows with these product lines. Microsoft cannot control their brand. Apple controls the entire stack so they're able to constantly deliver a quality experience. If all Windows machines were like the Surface Book then this conversation would be different.

But Microsoft themselves is now the one putting candy crush ads on the start menu, and forcing everyone into a two-major-upgrades-per-year cycle that's causing so many headaches.

Re: Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

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What a silly article. How someone could look at Apple's chip developments (A, T, S, W, etc. series of processors) and think they aren't innovative is mind-boggling. Apple developing key silicon in their devices is a major security benefit for their users and I consider that an innovative model. The Apple ecosystem itself is innovative and I don't think there's a single company that does it better. They still lead in…

And TouchId. And FaceID. And Apple Watch. And Airpods. And Apple Pencil. And TrueTone. And Swift. And the new file system.

Anybody who thinks Apple isn’t innovating is an ignorant jackass.

Re: Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

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post #35

Two months ago, Apple announced an ECG sensor for your wrist. A year before that, they announced face detection for the purposes of identity with enough accuracy that it can be used for financial transactions. Also, AirPods are incredible. I'm not saying Apple has a monopoly on invention, but to say they 'used to be an inventor'? That's weird.

> A year before that, they announced face detection for the purposes of identity

Somewhat like Windows Hello, that also existed, based on technology from the Xbox Kinect?

> Two months ago, Apple announced an ECG sensor for your wrist.

Okay, so this is cool. But, putting on my paramedic hat for a moment, there is _SO_ much disinformation about what this does and what it is capable of detecting, what the difference is between FDA _clearance_ and _approval_, etc.

It can detect A-fib. This is a common, but usually not life threatening medical condition. It's good to have it diagnosed, but even undiagnosed, many people live happy lives blisfully unaware of it. Another way you can potentially recognize A-fib? It's not quite as fancy as the Apple Watch, though: put your fingers on your radial pulse by your wrist. Feel yourself skipping every fourth beat? That _could_ be a problem (though there are other diagnoses).

The Apple Watch does not and _cannot_ (despite ill-informed articles by Cnet and others) take the place of a "12 lead" ECG (random detail, in the medical field, ECG usually refers to an echocardiogram, an ultrasound imaging, and EKG, for electrocardiogram, is most commonly used for what the Apple Watch and other devices are doing).

From Cnet[1]: "Traditional EKG machines have 12 leads with electrodes that are attached all over your body to measure the electrical signals. Apple compares what the Apple Watch Series 4 does to a single-lead EKG, which research shows is just as effective at measuring the heart's electrical signals as a 12-lead machine."

This is flat out and factually wrong. The linked research shows nothing of the sort, and tries to walk someone through using a single lead system multiple times (up to 10), to get the full results of a 12 lead (if you've ever wondered why a 12 lead EKG only requires 10 physical leads, think of them more as 'axes', measured multiple ways, i.e. from lead 1 to lead 4, lead 1 to 5, etc), and then being able to aggregate them manually. For one, this requires moving the end points of the leads multiple times, something you could not do with the Apple Watch (or, to be clear and fair, any other watch), unless you're planning on holding it in many different spots in sequence (which then has issues of being more a time lapse, than a snapshot).

What does that mean? It can't diagnose impending heart attacks, nor heart disease, valve problems, circulatory disorders, and it likely never will, especially with current hardware.

This is also why it's obtained FDA clearance, not approval. To use a metaphor, it's more like a fitness device on steroids, so to speak, with some minor overlap into general health. But not that much more.

[1]: https://www.cnet.com/how-to/apple-watch-ekg-what-is-ekg/

Re: Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

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post #35

Two months ago, Apple announced an ECG sensor for your wrist. A year before that, they announced face detection for the purposes of identity with enough accuracy that it can be used for financial transactions. Also, AirPods are incredible. I'm not saying Apple has a monopoly on invention, but to say they 'used to be an inventor'? That's weird.

>A year before that, they announced face detection for the purposes of identity with enough accuracy that it can be used for financial transactions.

considering a random scribble on a receipt or check is enough to authorize/authenticate a transaction, that bar is pretty low.

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I still haven’t seen anything that has the size, battery life, functionality, range, and audio quality as AirPods at any price point Walmart has wired earbuds for under $5, which are quite small (they fit in your ears), have perpetual battery life (because they have no battery!), the same functionality (they play sound, in your ears), great range and great audio quality. And you won't have to replace them in two ye…

I'm sorry but to anyone who's actually tried and lived with AirPods, there's no going back and there's no comparison to anything on the market at any price (even at a higher price). It's so drastically better than anything on the market, that I'll immediately buy a new pair if I lose my current ones. I wouldn't even think twice about the price. There is no other headphones on the market where I can play 1:1 basketbal…

The airpods I used a couple times fell out when I was running.

Re: Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new iPad Pro already benchmarks as high as some of their recent laptops (Yes, I know the thermals are different, etc but bear with me here) My bet is that over the years iPad Pro will expand to do more and more of the jobs that people traditionally use MacBooks (or laptops in general) to do. We'll eventually see a world where most people have iPads, not laptops - thereby relying on A-series chips, not Intel, to g…

I really don't think so. Whether or not the iPad pro has good hardwear is irrelevant. What matters is that it is missing and extremely important feature, which is a mouse and keyboard. I don't care how powerful a keyboard is if I can't use a physical keyboard and mouse for it. Power can't beat UX, and boy is the keyboard good UX when you compare it to tablets or phones.

This sounds like the kind of argument people made when the iPhone had a software keyboard and every other smartphone had a physical tactile keyboard.

What I think you're missing is that the world will evolve in ways to accommodate a mouse-light interface or evolve to include it if it becomes obvious that it's mission-critical (it's not at all obvious today, despite legacy thinking). Neither version of the future precludes the iPad at all. Just look at the new gestural interface on the new iPhone X/XR/XS devices. It makes navigating the OS effortless and super fast in ways that it simply wasn't before. Before it, people were saying that it's too slow to navigate on a mobile device. How many other innovations like that are coming down the line? We don't know.

I say this as someone who's used an iPad Pro along with the Keyboard Cover for quite some time. No, you won't be able to type on it for hours and hours. But you'll be able to type on it for an hour or so consistently. That's a BIG deal, and changes A LOT. It's only going to get better from here. There are a lot of apps that support countless keyboard shortcuts, including Google's whole G Suite, Office 365, Lightroom, and the upcoming full version of Photoshop in 2019.

If you asked me 3 years ago if I thought the iPad would replace Laptops, I'd tell you probably not. Apple had done little to differentiate it from the iPhone lineup in terms of iOS or even hardware features. But with the iPad Pro specifically, I think things have taken a real turn and Apple is signaling that they're ready to focus on taking it from a media consumption device to a more productive, mission-critical device.

120hz refresh rate, full digitizer, Apple Pencil, the new integrated keyboard cases, a new focus on pro apps, and a ton of improvements to the actual UI/UX to make multitasking and app-switching easier....etc etc. These were all the things that were missing for a long time. But Apple is finally doing all the things needed to move iPad in a direction where people will choose it over laptops at an increasing rate.

The kicker is this: Apple announced recently during WWDC that iOS apps will work on MacOS. Many of their new stock apps in MacOS Mojave are just ported iOS apps. They are truly and confidently doubling down on iOS and iPad.

That's my personal prediction and belief anyway.

Re: Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

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I’m not really sure I buy the premise - Apple has never been much of an inventor, instead being more of a “competent executor”. It’s true that Apple is likely to continue to increase its service offerings, but I don’t think that fundamentally changes the nature of the company. Since Apple has historically focused on executing extant ideas well, it’s quite possible that we won’t see any massive new markets until we kn…

I disagree, when apple released the iphone, they changed the face of what smart phones would ultimately become. The touch experience they pioneered really shouldn't be overlooked, and add that on to future technologies like the ipad, where both were deeply immersive devices that people were able to generate new and exiting feelings towards. Since then, apple has migrated from being a brand focused on the shear love o…

Many people probably don't recall that the Android interface Google was working on about the same time as the iPhone was released was a Blackberry clone. They adopted Apple's style afterwards. Of course, Apple's interface wasn't totally novel. A fullscreen (no keyboard) touch device already existed (to some degree, Palm Pilots reserved the lower portion of the screen for some input stuffs). The novel aspect was the multi-point touch support, where previous touch screen devices had support for a single touch point at a time, and often relied on a stylus (or fingernail) and were non-responsive to finger presses.

Re: Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord

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I think people in the mainstream media and even most people period just don't understand innovation cycles. They expect novelty every year, but they don't realize that revolutions are created by consistently great evolution over a long period of time. We're nearing the top of the S curve with regards to the smartphone business. Upgrade cycles are getting longer. Phones are getting as powerful as laptops and people ar…

The copy editor put a click-bait title on the article to get more hits/views, but if you read past it you'll find a fairly even and uncontroversial analysis. It's not an op-ed piece whining for more innovation as the title might imply The author emphasizes how Apple has created an ecosystem with its iPhone, but that it needs to extract more value from the services provided to that ecosystem to make up for declining s…

A significant proportion of HN comments lately have been apologist about the nature of headlines.

I can’t help feeling like we should stop apologizing. They suck, they’re inflammatory. I think it should be okay to complain about them.

No, I really believe we must complain about them. Loudly, and in numbers.

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