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Nutrients don't give food taste though. Mostly acids and other non vital alkaloids and terpenes do..
Vitamin-C definitely has a taste.
Because it is an acid..namely ascorbic acid..
When Adolescents Give Up Pot, Their Cognition Quickly Improves
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GMOs are the genetic equivalent to plastic in the ocean. Once it's in the wild it's damn hard to reverse the damage. Weed on the other hand you can just not consume.
GMOs are already produced on a massive scale; any irreversible damage is already done. Further, this is true for any domesticated organism, not GMOs in particular. Besides, the argument I referenced was about health risks, not ecological damage.
I don't care about health risks. Maybe that's why pro GMO and anti GMO folks can't have a discussion?
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A personal anecdote of mine. A friend has schizophrenia. There was a clear point of descent from smoking cannabis. He was 13 at the time - young for schizophrenia. He's now on clozapine, a powerful antipsychotic. Whenever his judgement fails him and he smokes pot, it's weeks to months before he has to spend some time in hospital. Otherwise, he could take other, heavier drugs to excess and not require urgent hospitali…
You've illustrated the problem in anecdata: Nothing in what you said indicates that cannabis causes his episodes. It is just as likely, given the description, that the sequence that results in an episode includes the prompts that trigger him to medicate with cannabis. This is why we can't use personal experience to make public policy.
This exactly. Right now we have correlation. A ton of people in this thread are trying to divine causation.
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Fun anecdote, my Bipolar disorder didn't manifest itself until immediately after the first time I consumed marijuana, and it is now a lifetime endeavor.
I know a lot of people who tried out marijuana as a medication for depression. (well, illegal / no prescription) It helped in the beginning, but most of them just became addicted, paranoid and incredible slow thinkers and figuratively numb. Depression is hell, but it's not worth giving up your sanity and intellect.
> It helped in the beginning, but most of them just became addicted, paranoid and incredible slow thinkers and figuratively numb.
Depression itself leads to all of those things. Your anecdote is not data.
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#535Earlier quoted context omitted.
GMOs are already produced on a massive scale; any irreversible damage is already done. Further, this is true for any domesticated organism, not GMOs in particular. Besides, the argument I referenced was about health risks, not ecological damage.
I don't care about health risks. Maybe that's why pro GMO and anti GMO folks can't have a discussion?
> I don't care about health risks.
Then my observation doesn't apply to you.
> Maybe that's why pro GMO and anti GMO folks can't have a discussion?
Lots of anti GMO folks have cited health concerns.
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> Ignoring the link between mental illness and marijuana use is ridiculous. Your statement presupposes the conclusion. You need to consider two different questions: 1) Do we have correlation between marijuana usage and mental illness above and beyond the line for something as common as alcohol or cigarettes? 2) Do we have have causation between marijuana and mental illness? Most studies barely reach an "inconclusive,…
Alcohol is a red herring and serves no purpose in this discussion. The public has been made aware of the dangers of alcohol consumption. > The relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia fulfills many but not all of the standard criteria for causality, including temporality, biological gradient, biological plausibility, experimental evidence, consistency, and coherence. At the present time, the evidence indicates…
> That's pretty solid, and far from "inconclusive."
It's literally what he said: "inconclusive, needs more study".
Re: When Adolescents Give Up Pot, Their Cognition Quickly Improves
#537A drug more benign than alcohol. Smoke too much, take a nap. Smoke too often, cut down and get sharp again. Drink too much, you get flu symptoms. Drink too much too often, you get a new liver, or die.
"more benign" !== "benign" Everyone I know that smokes daily (a lot of people) is less cognitive than those I know who don't smoke, in every arena except artistic pursuits. And not everyone reacts to weed the same way. I decided to quit when I recognized a lessened ability to solve complex coding questions the day after smoking.
There are a lot of smokers who hate stoners, and won't mention their mj use to casual acquaintances. And it's certainly not for everybody, especially at higher doses or potency.
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#538Earlier quoted context omitted.
"more benign" !== "benign" Everyone I know that smokes daily (a lot of people) is less cognitive than those I know who don't smoke, in every arena except artistic pursuits. And not everyone reacts to weed the same way. I decided to quit when I recognized a lessened ability to solve complex coding questions the day after smoking.
Don't big chief on the daily home slice. Save cashing bowls for the weekend and between 5 and 8 pm and you're fine as frogs hair.
This ^^
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It is also a social thing, young people smoke not because it is a mental issue but because it is cool, their freiends smoke so they try it. If the movies,music will show that is cool and the risk of smoking pot is small then getting the truth out-there will be expensive. Some rich business makes tons of money and the society needs to pay for studies, education, health treatments.
Weed is closer to alcohol in this regard. People smoke cigarettes because it looks cool. People drink or smoke pot because they're mind altering substances. Movies/music/etc. already portray smoking pot (whether it's cool or not is up to you I guess) so that horse is out of the barn. "Will Kids think it's cool" isn't really a good argument in favor of prohibition. If anything, so far the (small amount) of data seems…
I am not arguing for prohibition but for making sure that the financial interests won't go wild, I read daily here the phrase "companies have no moral" so I see this companies putting a lot of effort into selling as much as possible by advertising, misleading people about the side effects, a solution that I would be happy would be to not allow big companies to enter into this business, allow only small farmers, if it is imported then it should be done by non-profits and distribute it in pharmacies.
I admit I did not studied this topics since I am not interested just I am very disgusted on the tabacoo industry advertising and lobby and I would like to not repeat the history. I am not for prohibition, make it legal but don't have that a dozens of people get rich on this and society pays for the consequences.
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There is no evidence that marijuana is addictive or has lasting deleterious effects on intelligence. Your anecdata is not evidence.
This isn't /r/trees, you can't expect to make a claim like that without backing it up.
I made no claim, the parent did.