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Satellite images expose China's network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang

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Re: Satellite images expose China's network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang

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Post by echevil »

hanchinese wrote: post #45
adventured wrote: post #23

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There are 40 enemy combatants held at Guantanamo. They have public legal representation and visitation rights. China has removed all human rights for over ten million Uyghur Muslims. Including freedom of movement, freedom of religion, tight restrictions on behavior, tracking of all communication and movement, restrictions on who you can meet or talk to, tracking of all Urghar family members in China or abroad, non-ex…

My high school physics teacher escaped from the region fearing for her children's safety and future. I have to disappoint you that the story is not about a Uygur woman escaping from the horrible CCP re-education camp, it is the complete opposite - my high school physics teacher is a talented Han Chinese woman who escaped from endless Uygur terrorist bombings on Han Chinese civilians. She told me that a full bus of st…

To be fair the people you’re talking about are Muslim extremists - they are not too different from people causing terrorism in Middle East and they are what the Chinese government need to deal with.

There are also tons of regular Xinjiang Muslims living peacefully, both in Xinjiang and major cities in the east. There are also tons of Muslim restaurants everywhere in China, and they are quite popular

Re: Satellite images expose China's network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang

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Post by echevil »

sadness2 wrote: post #48
hanchinese wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My high school physics teacher escaped from the region fearing for her children's safety and future. I have to disappoint you that the story is not about a Uygur woman escaping from the horrible CCP re-education camp, it is the complete opposite - my high school physics teacher is a talented Han Chinese woman who escaped from endless Uygur terrorist bombings on Han Chinese civilians. She told me that a full bus of st…

Thank you for honestly sharing your perspective. Unfortunately a fear-based approach reliably creates what it fears. If the proponents of a culture want others to do adopt their culture, they may do so by inspiring others through their compassion, generosity and self-sacrifice. This is the trust-based approach. Unfortunately it is rarely done because it is counter-intuitive and requires systematically setting aside a…

Except it’s not a fear based approach. The re-education camp are - like it’s name - for re-education. The Chinese government want these Muslim extremists to learn enough skills to live a normal life. If they can make a living like everyone else, they’ll be much likely to become a terrorist. It’s a better outcome for everyone

Re: Satellite images expose China's network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang

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Post by trhway »

toxik wrote: post #26
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #15

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> Allow them to secede? Is that a serious question? If a people no longer wants to be part of a country they should be allowed to secede. The Scottish tried it via a democratic route - which would have succeeded with a wide margin post-Brexit. Actually, the British voted to secede from the EU. The Catalans want to secede from Spain. But that's besides the point - you're almost implying that it's OK to put people in c…

The EU is not a nation state Scotland has a very unique history in this Catalunya is not gaining independence and the central Madrid government has declared their referendum illegitimate and illegal. People cannot vote their way to secession, even in democracies.

>People cannot vote their way to secession, even in democracies.

Crimea people did :)

Re: Satellite images expose China's network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang

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Post by therein »

stephen_g wrote: post #40
throwawayinside wrote: post #36

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Can someone explain why a netblock owned by Facebook would have a 20ms response time in China? Does Facebook have Chinese servers?

I assume the inference is that the Government is hijacking the address within China and routing it to a state-controlled server. So they could make it plausibly look like it’s coming from a foreign IP while locally censoring the content on the site. If you have control over the network, hijacking the whole site is easier to do than trying to MITM traffic between users and the site, since HTTPS would hinder your effor…

And for that there is HSTS Preload.

https://hstspreload.com/

Re: Satellite images expose China's network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang

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Post by _iyig »

Was this article flagged in some non-visible way? I don’t see it anywhere in the first 7 pages, despite having 123 points and a post time of just 16 hours ago. (Only noticed when I came back to it hoping for a reply to an earlier comment.)

Re: Satellite images expose China's network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang

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Post by Krasnol »

hitripley wrote: post #32

This is just another try to demonize that country. Do these people (especially those from CNN and BBC) really care about the fate of the prisoners?

You make it as if it would require some creative work do paint China in a bad light when the facts are more then enough and that's what is happening here. Facts. Reality.

It's interesting though that you simultaneously know that this makes China look bad but instead of blaming those who cause it (Chinese government) you chose to blame those who report it. Why is that?

Re: Satellite images expose China's network of secret re-education camps in Xinjiang

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Post by paraditedc »

_iyig wrote: post #55

Was this article flagged in some non-visible way? I don’t see it anywhere in the first 7 pages, despite having 123 points and a post time of just 16 hours ago. (Only noticed when I came back to it hoping for a reply to an earlier comment.)

Because not everyone is interested in constant China bashing news on homepage, especially from abc.net.au.

https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=abc.net.au

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