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I am not happy with these new services because they are all hosted in the EU where there is no right to free speech, so to me they are not an improvement over what they are supposed to replace.
“where there is no right to free speech“ Yes, there is. At least in my experience as a happy EU citizen. So want to cut the hyperbole and substantiate your claim?
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No country in the world gives you right of free speech on someone else's platform.
There is no free speech in Germany, so chances are that someone will say something on Diaspora that the government of Germany won't like. Then, if the owner of Diaspora refuses to delete the "illegal" post, he will be thrown in jail, so he doesn't really have a chance not to censor whatever the government forces him to censor.
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I am not happy with these new services because they are all hosted in the EU where there is no right to free speech, so to me they are not an improvement over what they are supposed to replace.
And where would you propose as an alternative, in terms of better rights to free speech than europe? Surely not the US? Right?
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What does it have to do with living in Germany? I live in Berlin and we have the most vibrant community of privacy, security etc I've ever seen.
I am not happy with these new services because they are all hosted in the EU where there is no right to free speech, so to me they are not an improvement over what they are supposed to replace.
"Article 10 – Freedom of expression
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.
2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary"
Yes, that's a lot of caveats, but if you have a substantive true idea or non-extreme politics you're fine. What you're not free to do is make calls for genocide etc.
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I am not happy with these new services because they are all hosted in the EU where there is no right to free speech, so to me they are not an improvement over what they are supposed to replace.
“where there is no right to free speech“ Yes, there is. At least in my experience as a happy EU citizen. So want to cut the hyperbole and substantiate your claim?
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No country in the world gives you right of free speech on someone else's platform.
There is no free speech in Germany, so chances are that someone will say something on Diaspora that the government of Germany won't like. Then, if the owner of Diaspora refuses to delete the "illegal" post, he will be thrown in jail, so he doesn't really have a chance not to censor whatever the government forces him to censor.
And don't get me started on the puritanism
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“where there is no right to free speech“ Yes, there is. At least in my experience as a happy EU citizen. So want to cut the hyperbole and substantiate your claim?
Are you allowed to deny the Holocaust?
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I am not happy with these new services because they are all hosted in the EU where there is no right to free speech, so to me they are not an improvement over what they are supposed to replace.
“where there is no right to free speech“ Yes, there is. At least in my experience as a happy EU citizen. So want to cut the hyperbole and substantiate your claim?
Free Speech, in the USAmerican sense, seems to be strongly curtailed in the UK.
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I am not happy with these new services because they are all hosted in the EU where there is no right to free speech, so to me they are not an improvement over what they are supposed to replace.
Europe has a conditional right to free expression which is balanced with other rights: "Article 10 – Freedom of expression 1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadca…
that's the bit I don't agree with. it leaves room for a lot of interpretation. there was a woman in Austria who was fined for saying that mohamed was a child rapist (which you could argue it is true given that he slept with underaged girls).
I don't agree to people being fined if they say something about Mohamed or God. That is not free speech IMO.
I think product names matter, and diaspora seems misnamed to me.
It's a bit of a downer. > A diaspora (/daɪˈæspərə/) is a scattered population whose origin lies in a separate geographic locale. In particular, diaspora has come to refer to involuntary mass dispersions of a population from its indigenous territories, most notably the expulsion of Jews from Israel (known as the Jewish diaspora) and the fleeing of Greeks after the fall of Constantinople. Other examples are the African…