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Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Post by hamiltonkibbe »

gibsons77 wrote: post #140
agumonkey wrote: post #99

I keep asking. How to organize at the middle layer ? Not govt or nation wide, but smaller areas. I believe starting small reactions in parallel could accelerate things. Otherwise it's still talk.

I'm sorry to be that guy, but I really think blockchain offers solutions to these types of coordination problems. For example, Aragon just launched their mainnet today. They made a platform that allows distributed collaboration between groups of people. I think this could potentially reduce bureaucracy and reduce the time between idea and implementation. I have zero stake in Aragon btw, I just find it fascinating and…

How does Aragon's effectiveness for this compare to e.g a Google Docs spreadsheet?

Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Post by mercer »

paulie_a wrote: post #152
Flavius wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes no sense. Eating meat is just as expensive as energy consumption. Food can be just as delicious with 20% meat instead of 80% meat. Why would you insist on eating as much as possible?

I didn't say I was eating as much as possible. I said I am going to continue to eat it at the same rate I currently do. Personally I am not going vegetarian.

I've noticed you keep making posts that boil down to 'I do/am/believe ' without it offering much relevance or insight to the discussion. It seems like you're just live blogging on HN. I'm very curious what your reasons are for doing so.

EDIT: I'm honestly curious. It doesn't bother me too much, and I'm sure I've made comments that I thought were valuable but in hindsight were probably just me wanting to be present. It's mostly the consistency of such comments from you that fascinates me.

Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Post by archagon »

gibsons77 wrote: post #140
agumonkey wrote: post #99

I keep asking. How to organize at the middle layer ? Not govt or nation wide, but smaller areas. I believe starting small reactions in parallel could accelerate things. Otherwise it's still talk.

I'm sorry to be that guy, but I really think blockchain offers solutions to these types of coordination problems. For example, Aragon just launched their mainnet today. They made a platform that allows distributed collaboration between groups of people. I think this could potentially reduce bureaucracy and reduce the time between idea and implementation. I have zero stake in Aragon btw, I just find it fascinating and…

Crypto could also become one of the biggest contributors to climate change, since it’s literally just wasting as much energy as possible to make money.

Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

ljcn wrote: post #157
andyjohnson0 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In short we need a global WWII-level effort. I agree. "It’s been a couple of weeks now since the IPCC report came out. You know what it says. If the whole damn species pulls together in a concerted effort “without historical precedent”— if we start right now, and never let up on the throttle— we just might be able to swing the needle back from Catastrophe to mere Disaster. If we cut carbon emissions by half over th…

> And also: how exactly do I explain to my children that the world they're growing-up in is in a dire state and soon may not even be able to support anything like a normal life for them? Ideas anyone? They'll think it's normal, which is the real tragedy, but that's been happening for generations already. Your idea of normal is not as rich as your ancestors'. Wasn't North America abundant with wildlife when the Europe…

> They'll think it's normal, which is the real tragedy, but that's been happening for generations already. Your idea of normal is not as rich as your ancestors'. Wasn't North America abundant with wildlife when the Europeans arrived?

I'm not sure what you mean. I consider my life to be substantially richer than my ancestor's lives. I live in Europe, not North Americal, but yes there was more wildlife around a couple of centuries ago. It would be nice to have that again, but i'd settle for something like the current fairly poor situation it it meant that my kids and their contemporaries don't have to risk being made into refugees by climate change, or face a future of water/food/energy shortages, failed states and frustrated potential.

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Post by didgeoridoo »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #8
lucidguppy wrote: post #3

1) Go watch the movie cowspiracy on netflix. Go vegan. 2) Get an energy audit and see if your home needs more insulation. If a solar panel installation will pay for itself in a reasonable time where you live (rebates - SRECs - etc) consider getting one. 3) If you live in a warmer climate with safe biking paths - get an electric bike to go to work. 4) The next car you get should be electric or plugin hybrid. Even if i…

Ive stopped eating red meat, and in a bad week 25% of my meals are vegan, in a good week 75% or more of my meals are vegan. I’ve read that a medium sized dog has the carbon footprint of a medium sized SUV, approximately. I have two small-medium dogs. They eat a lot of vegetables and legumes. 90% of their snacks / treats are sweet potato / carrots / apples. Their main meals consist of a mix of grated veggies, cooked b…

You may want to look into supplementing the dogs’ diets with taurine. There is rising suspicion in the vet world that a diet high in legumes, pulses, and potatoes may suppress taurine absorption and increase the risk of developing dilated cardiomyopathy: https://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/newsevents/cvmupdates/u...

Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Post by androidgirl »

ablation wrote: post #154

I find that the impending climate cataclysm is really starting to affect me and my day to day life in the form of crushing depression and anxiety. It's such a huge, nebulous, threatening issue that I can't even begin to think how we go about mitigating it (as preventing it entirely seems like a dead horse to flog at this point). I'd be really curious to know if anyone else is feeling like this? And how you may have g…

I'm also really starting to feel the weight of it.

I collect fossils, and it recently crossed my mind that the coral fossils in my collection may be all that's left of corals by the end of my lifespan. I've also given up on the idea of raising children, as much as I want to be a mother, because it doesn't seem right.

It's a heavy weight, what helps me avoid it is just immersing myself in work. Hardly positive.

Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Post by ablation »

androidgirl wrote: post #166
ablation wrote: post #154

I find that the impending climate cataclysm is really starting to affect me and my day to day life in the form of crushing depression and anxiety. It's such a huge, nebulous, threatening issue that I can't even begin to think how we go about mitigating it (as preventing it entirely seems like a dead horse to flog at this point). I'd be really curious to know if anyone else is feeling like this? And how you may have g…

I'm also really starting to feel the weight of it. I collect fossils, and it recently crossed my mind that the coral fossils in my collection may be all that's left of corals by the end of my lifespan. I've also given up on the idea of raising children, as much as I want to be a mother, because it doesn't seem right. It's a heavy weight, what helps me avoid it is just immersing myself in work. Hardly positive.

I feel the same on the raising children point. I want to be a father, and my wife wants children too, but I feel as though it would be unfair - cruel, perhaps - to bring them into a society that could be a generation or two away from collapse. What sort of future would they have? It's a wrenching argument I have with myself that eats away at me deeply.

Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Post by agumonkey »

archagon wrote: post #163
gibsons77 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry to be that guy, but I really think blockchain offers solutions to these types of coordination problems. For example, Aragon just launched their mainnet today. They made a platform that allows distributed collaboration between groups of people. I think this could potentially reduce bureaucracy and reduce the time between idea and implementation. I have zero stake in Aragon btw, I just find it fascinating and…

Crypto could also become one of the biggest contributors to climate change, since it’s literally just wasting as much energy as possible to make money.

yeah, I don't buy the future of crypto. Too many cons (energy and other) not enough pros.

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

sunir wrote: post #133
jahaja wrote: post #125

This is also a crisis of critical thought. There's an utter lack and/or willingness to imagine any other reality than the current market economy. This goes even to the length of advocating some sort of scorched earth policies to decrease the earth's population since in their mind, the only human is the market-human and is as such inherently a terrible polluter. This is fundamentalism.

There are plenty of attempts to think about other systems, implement them, and advocate for change. They all lack something important: success. Also ironically it is a market of competing ideas to markets.

There's not been too many as it's remarkably difficult to implement an alternative to a market economy outside of revolution. That likely favours specific alternatives.

I've not seen attempts to implement any approach that is seeking sustainability, or constrain growth, or break out of the duopoly of centrally planned vs free market.

That leaves a lot of ideas, of varying credibility, that have never been trialled in any way, shape, or form. Off the top of my head "doughnut economics" was briefly popular in the news a few years ago. It remains a thought experiment. (I don't remember enough about it to comment on its viability).

Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'

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Post by jahaja »

Sacho wrote: post #158
jahaja wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did I though? Success is the differentiator post-mutation. If mutation itself ceases due to the prerequisite, evolution does too. But why do you feel the need to read and dissect an analogy so literally in the first place? It's not the point.

> If mutation itself ceases due to the prerequisite, evolution does too. But then your reply doesn't make sense. Here's what parent said: > There are plenty of attempts to think about other systems, implement them , and advocate for change. They all lack something important: success. That part would imply that mutation is happening, just unsuccessfully. If you wanted to disagree with that, then your analogy was just…

Given what I wrote in my original comment I interpret the reply as standard status quo apologetics and implying that success needs to be a prerequisite. Then the analogy seems appropriate no?
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