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Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by PakG1 »

danillonunes wrote: post #276
ACow_Adonis wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Says google is code agnostic. Provides list of the three languages you specifically need to code in. Perhaps agnostic means something different in my language :p

I think code agnostic in this case means they don’t hire based on a language, but they still work with a limited set. It makes sense if you think about it. A small startup with 5 Python engineers can’t afford to hire one with heavy experience in Ruby and who knows a thing or two about Python. First, it may be the case that this person can actually transfer their knowledge and do a good job with Python, but there’s al…

Everything you said is not wrong. But it still seems to me that agnostic is the wrong word to use here, and code agnostic is the wrong phrase.

edit: mav3rick has clarified below, it does indeed seem code agnostic.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by kweinber »

Sites like this are recruiter-bait. (Notice that Triplebyte is a recruiter). They purport to have real salary info from the richest companies in the world to unsettle employees. (With no claim to even be telling the truth). This inspires people to be job flippers when they are closer to the average salaries that pay well but don’t compete at the high end.

Changing jobs every year might get you quick raises early but actually achieving meaningful results takes time and gets you bigger raises/satisfaction in the long run. Don’t let recruiter-bait push you into someone who hops around out of envy and never really commits to anything.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by lordnacho »

spbaar wrote: post #307
lordnacho wrote: post #28

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The UK is just very skewed, due to finance. I studied in the UK, and there was a 6 month placement internship programme. Engineering firm (industrial measurement) wanted to pay me $11K to be an engineer. Marketing department at a major semiconductor said £15K. So I took it. My friend at Goldmans got £37K. So guess what I did after uni. I even met loads of people in finance with engineering degrees who said they were…

My understanding of finance as vaguely magical makes this easy to believe. Buy why does does engineering pay so low in UK?

Mystery to me as well. The only people I know from the course who do it live far from London. Even then I'm not sure how it makes sense when you could get a remote job.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by crispyambulance »

mav3rick wrote: post #153
JimboOmega wrote: post #109

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There are two problems with these: 1) If you aren't at one of these companies, it's not a fair comparison. It's really difficult to find a pre-IPO company who is going to compensate you like these, if for no other reason than that options are just not something you can easily stick a dollar value on. 2) It's kind of depressing. It's very easy to find people at similar experience levels as you making FAR more money (p…

So what you're saying is that this tool is bad because it makes you sad ?. Information is empowering use it to make informed choices about your career. If you're taking less money, make sure there is some trade off you're happy with. Also, most Google jobs are language agnostic. You can code in pretty much one of C/C++, Java, Python, Google hires for generalists. Your Ruby experience is not what's holding you back, s…

It makes me "sad" too, kind-of, until I realize that...

* This all about a relatively small number of companies, all large, mostly trendy, mostly webby.

* mostly Bay area and their satellite campuses in a few other places.

* base salaries are higher than what I'm used to but not crazy higher unless one counts stock grants. When danluu casually drops numbers like 400K he's really talking about senior/principal folks in very elite job-tracks WITH very high stock grants.

* the data comes from people who have had "career trajectories" that brought them to this salary escalator. Career-changers, those of us with weird and varied backgrounds and those with rough starts are, generally-speaking, excluded from these kinds of salary expectations.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by empath75 »

JimboOmega wrote: post #109
seattleeng wrote: post #10

Huge fan of this site, for two reasons: - It lets “outsiders” to the tech scene understand salary and levels at big companies. If you went to MIT you probably already have frat brothers/sorority sisters or an alumni network that consists of senior engineers at these big companies that know the promotion and compensation schemes well. But if you were an equally smart student who went to a non target school, many of th…

There are two problems with these: 1) If you aren't at one of these companies, it's not a fair comparison. It's really difficult to find a pre-IPO company who is going to compensate you like these, if for no other reason than that options are just not something you can easily stick a dollar value on. 2) It's kind of depressing. It's very easy to find people at similar experience levels as you making FAR more money (p…

According to this thing if I had a similar level job at google I’d be making $150k more a year in total comp than i’m making now but I’m like 90% sure I can’t get that job at google.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by hcles »

taylorhalliday wrote: post #255
gregschlom wrote: post #222

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> you should absolutely be able to interview in the language of your choice. Except the choice is between Java, C++ and Python. They are very clear about that, asking what your preference is during the scheduling phase. I went through the interview process this year, and even tried to ask my interviewers if it was ok to do Kotlin instead of Java. It wasn't.

I interviewed and passed at google. Through 6 interviews I used JS, C, Go, and Swift. One of the tougher Qs was to make a pretty full-featured promise library from scratch in whatever language I wanted in one of those interviews. Chose Swift because I'm a fan of the syntax for blocks (esp when whiteboarding). Feedback was that was my best interview of the day. My experience - they wanted to know I could program, didn…

You wrote a promise library in Swift on a whiteboard? What?

How large was this whiteboard?

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by JediClown »

test1235 wrote: post #321
Bahamut wrote: post #235

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I have interviewed with Google 7-8 times over the past 3-4 years (Google has mostly rejected me, but last time I cancelled the process with an onsite scheduled due to personal reasons) - every single time, Google has let me interview with JavaScript.

why do you keep re-interviewing? Is it for different roles?

Dude really wants there.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by rco8786 »

empath75 wrote: post #336
JimboOmega wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two problems with these: 1) If you aren't at one of these companies, it's not a fair comparison. It's really difficult to find a pre-IPO company who is going to compensate you like these, if for no other reason than that options are just not something you can easily stick a dollar value on. 2) It's kind of depressing. It's very easy to find people at similar experience levels as you making FAR more money (p…

According to this thing if I had a similar level job at google I’d be making $150k more a year in total comp than i’m making now but I’m like 90% sure I can’t get that job at google.

That’s a pretty defeatist attitude
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