1) Go watch the movie cowspiracy on netflix. Go vegan. 2) Get an energy audit and see if your home needs more insulation. If a solar panel installation will pay for itself in a reasonable time where you live (rebates - SRECs - etc) consider getting one. 3) If you live in a warmer climate with safe biking paths - get an electric bike to go to work. 4) The next car you get should be electric or plugin hybrid. Even if i…
5. Have less or no children. ~Birth rates in the India, China and, Africa are an issue.
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#102I keep asking. How to organize at the middle layer ? Not govt or nation wide, but smaller areas. I believe starting small reactions in parallel could accelerate things. Otherwise it's still talk.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you think that the powers that be are sleepwalking? They know it's coming and they want to be out on top when it does. Hence the anti-refugee, anti-immigrant talk -- might as well start early and get people in the mindset to deal harshly with mass migration caused by climate change. Hence the continued military build-up and the consolidation of armed forces in hot-zones (multiple meanings to 'hot') Hence t…
Yeah, maybe. I don't buy it. As far as I can tell, there's not some big global conspiracy of "the powers that be" -- there's just a bunch of random stupid humans doing the best they can. The problem of climate change is just too big and happening over too long a timescale for us to address. None of our personal or political systems are evolved to deal with it.
That said, don't kid yourself for a minute that the people with large amounts of capital don't meet and discuss these things amongst themselves. They have both public-facing institutions (political parties, etc.) and private ones for this purpose.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
And then - how about not having children? An impact of a single child is greater than lifetime of eating meat by a single person.
I totally support the idea people who deny climate change should not reproduce. For two main reasons: first, to save the environment and, second, to improve the human gene pool. I don't expect them to agree, however.
Yeah, everyone who disagrees with me is wrong and we should prevent them from reproducing. /s
I fully believe in climate change but your opinion that eugenics is part of the solution is out in left field and incompatible with the values of most people on this planet to put it charitably.
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#1051) Go watch the movie cowspiracy on netflix. Go vegan. 2) Get an energy audit and see if your home needs more insulation. If a solar panel installation will pay for itself in a reasonable time where you live (rebates - SRECs - etc) consider getting one. 3) If you live in a warmer climate with safe biking paths - get an electric bike to go to work. 4) The next car you get should be electric or plugin hybrid. Even if i…
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#106Is this being war-gamed at the highest level of any of the big three world powers that have this kind of arsenal?
Countries that are net exporters of primary materials and foods would be more valuable than those which are net importers.
Try to minimize effects on arable land and base ecosystems - limit the damage to the boundaries of worthless cement and asphalt.
How many times in a row with the likeliest variables does the modeling have to result in "them or potentially everyone" before the decision is made to press the big red button?
Who decides the variables? What population numbers are we talking? What about retribution?
What about more subtle alternatives? Taking out an entire country's power grid under the guise of a terrorist act, let the ensuing chaos be it's own form of population control, then comes the big bang under cover of chaos it is more difficult to attribute.
This sounds like a dystopian story which would get turned into a bad movie with a happy ending starring The Rock or Tom Cruise being reunited with their daughter who was at college in one of the targeted cities but as luck would have it was visiting less fortunate rural orphans when it all went down, and she still had her makeup clutch.
I really don't know if I should have posted this or not. I've spent the last hour reading the other comments and the overwhelming feeling i get is that there's very little hope. Someone even quoted Peter Watts, so i can't be going too far thinking that this a real future option can I? I don't even know if i think its a remotely realistic scenario, but i do know that war is humanity's most effective population control with historic precedent.
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#1071) Go watch the movie cowspiracy on netflix. Go vegan. 2) Get an energy audit and see if your home needs more insulation. If a solar panel installation will pay for itself in a reasonable time where you live (rebates - SRECs - etc) consider getting one. 3) If you live in a warmer climate with safe biking paths - get an electric bike to go to work. 4) The next car you get should be electric or plugin hybrid. Even if i…
We can do our part locally, but individuals have no control over industry. We need to force the hand of government to paint the big strokes that we can't. I feel like social change is going to be the slowest, a government may tend to lag but they can do the most in the quickest amount of time with industry regulation.
Now, category 3 is illegal, and the cheap eggs are category 2: barn-raised (not way better, but at least they can walk about)
This did not happen because egg producers or the agricultural regulatory agencies felt bad about how they were keeping their chickens, but because enough of the public who cared pushed the government to make category 3 eggs illegal - and the only reason they had that whole categories thing to begin with was enough of the public who cared.
I usually buy category 1 eggs (free-range, for some minimal value of free range) from small local producers here - I don't care what the chickens ate because the chickens don't really care what they eat, but I'll buy category 0 (free-range, organic feed) if category 1 isn't available.
Re: Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated'
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, maybe. I don't buy it. As far as I can tell, there's not some big global conspiracy of "the powers that be" -- there's just a bunch of random stupid humans doing the best they can. The problem of climate change is just too big and happening over too long a timescale for us to address. None of our personal or political systems are evolved to deal with it.
I didn't say it was a conspiracy. It's a net, systematic effect caused by individual decisions in their self-interest. The concentration of power is an aggregate effect of the method of economic production we have. That said, don't kid yourself for a minute that the people with large amounts of capital don't meet and discuss these things amongst themselves. They have both public-facing institutions (political parties…
BREAKING NEWS: Rich guys also hope their families survive the water wars.
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#109At what level of crisis does one country with a large enough arsenal of intercontinental ballistic missiles target the largest population centres of the world as the last resort to reach sustainable levels of humanity? Is this being war-gamed at the highest level of any of the big three world powers that have this kind of arsenal? Countries that are net exporters of primary materials and foods would be more valuable…
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#110If everyone knew how to grow food locally there would be less transportation waste, more community, & stronger immune systems from working the dirt with hands instead of exclusively machines.
It also would make the food more expensive.