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Hundreds at Google Plan Walkout to Protest Handling of Sexual Harassment

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Re: Hundreds at Google Plan Walkout to Protest Handling of Sexual Harassment

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1,500 of 94,000 What do the other 98.4% think about silently paying millions of dollars in exit packages to male executives accused of sexual harassment?

Let’s wait and see how many actually participate before assuming only that number care?

> Let’s wait and see how many actually participate before assuming only that number care?

You are right. It will likely be fewer.

Re: Hundreds at Google Plan Walkout to Protest Handling of Sexual Harassment

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They probably don't like it but also believe that the walk out doesn't _do_ anything. To clarify even further, there's been a lot internal messaging internally from execs condemning sexual harassment and assault since the news cycle. If one believes this messaging, then walking out adds almost nothing more to the situation. If you think the execs are lying to you at all, but especially on this topic, you probably alr…

No way, these employees don't get paid by the hour and they aren't going to pull from their PTO to protest. Having a bunch of employees standing around being unproductive hits them right in the wallet. Management is going to listen to this above almost any other signal.

> Having a bunch of employees standing around being unproductive hits them right in the wallet.

Google can quickly fire them and have replacements onboarded by the end of this week.

Re: Hundreds at Google Plan Walkout to Protest Handling of Sexual Harassment

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One of my friend working for a big tech once told me, if you go back in time, you'll see powerful men had many women. Why do you think at Google it will be any different? Being one of the most powerful organizations, it attracts power hungry people. Not only those who want money and fame, but those who want others to submit to them and make others do whatever they want. Cleary such people see sexual harassment in similar way as coercing a small startup to be acquired or be demolished. Some speculated, efforts to increase diversity is to get executives access to more women.

Half of the women when given a choice between being ghosted or being promoted at a company, will choose to sleep with you in return of promotion/soft cornering etc...(as most of them are liberal and it happens behind the scenes anyways, sex is no longer taboo, Tinder hookup culture is very popular and accepted). Everyone will see your new Tesla and Instagram lifestyle but who will ask who you had slept with to afford this new car and lifestyle? No wonder, executives know this. Very few victims (most don't see themselves as victim but as hackers who gamed the system and ended up with more return) actually retaliate. Most are imposters, who don't believe they are good for anything. So they welcome any favour coming their way.

Executives aren't crazy to film while having sex as some other crazy hookup culture people who you might find on Tinder. Sleeping with them is relatively safe and more rewarding. They've reputation to lose and skin in the game.

Those executives probably slept with 100 employees before they got busted. Surely, they feel it was worth it.

I am simply outlining how the thing works so that people can fix the incentives around this and come up with a better system to fight sexual harassment.

Please don't fight strawman by downvoting because reading this hurts your feelings. Contest point by point, what is your company doing to avoid situations like these?

Re: Hundreds at Google Plan Walkout to Protest Handling of Sexual Harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They probably don't like it but also believe that the walk out doesn't _do_ anything. To clarify even further, there's been a lot internal messaging internally from execs condemning sexual harassment and assault since the news cycle. If one believes this messaging, then walking out adds almost nothing more to the situation. If you think the execs are lying to you at all, but especially on this topic, you probably alr…

No way, these employees don't get paid by the hour and they aren't going to pull from their PTO to protest. Having a bunch of employees standing around being unproductive hits them right in the wallet. Management is going to listen to this above almost any other signal.

The thing is that my whole management chain is going to the protests and have said they are for it (and they also have been changing sexual harassment policies the last few years anyway). The protest has lost a lot of value because the people we ostensibly protest against are already there agreeing with us.

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One of my friend working for a big tech once told me, if you go back in time, you'll see powerful men had many women. Why do you think at Google it will be any different? Being one of the most powerful organizations, it attracts power hungry people. Not only those who want money and fame, but those who want others to submit to them and make others do whatever they want. Cleary such people see sexual harassment in sim…

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Re: Hundreds at Google Plan Walkout to Protest Handling of Sexual Harassment

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One of my friend working for a big tech once told me, if you go back in time, you'll see powerful men had many women. Why do you think at Google it will be any different? Being one of the most powerful organizations, it attracts power hungry people. Not only those who want money and fame, but those who want others to submit to them and make others do whatever they want. Cleary such people see sexual harassment in sim…

I don't think it is accurate to say that half of women would make that choice. The damaging point of these behaviors is that people begin to assume this is normal when it is not. That is the real tragedy for Google.
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