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Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by amazon_tossaway »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #124
amazon_tossaway wrote: post #119

Amazonian here. Can anyone else from Amazon speak to whether you think these numbers look accurate? I'm sitting here in almost disbelief at how little I apparently make at AMZN. I don't think I have anyone to ask that would know and would be willing to give any kind of answer. I've been fairly content at Amazon. I've done good work, and have been a resource to others on my team. But if these numbers are right, I don'…

I work at Amazon too. The numbers seem accurate and represent mid-range of the band from everyone I've talked to. Of course, this is only from what I've seen. The numbers seem to be a pretty tight grouping overall so I'm curious what your TC is like if you're in disbelief.

I noticed the tight grouping as well. I'm in the very low end...of the job level below me.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by throwaway17159 »

bhelkey wrote: post #21
imbusy111 wrote: post #17

Either I was: 1) seriously underpaid at Google, 2) things have changed a lot in the past half year or 3) the stats do not reflect real averages.

Are you comfortable posting your previous level/salary?

(not parent, of course)

IIRC: T4 (it wasn't called that internally. it was the "SWE III" smaller text on the box), 100k/yr salary + ~15k stock / yr, don't remember bonus, in 2011. ~$114k adjusted for inflation.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by akhilcacharya »

amazon_tossaway wrote: post #131
akhilcacharya wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at Amazon too. The numbers seem accurate and represent mid-range of the band from everyone I've talked to. Of course, this is only from what I've seen. The numbers seem to be a pretty tight grouping overall so I'm curious what your TC is like if you're in disbelief.

I noticed the tight grouping as well. I'm in the very low end...of the job level below me.

L5? Which location? When did you join?

Did you receiver refreshers? Your stock growth alone should push you into upper bands if you stayed long.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by symbolepro »

seattleeng wrote: post #10

Huge fan of this site, for two reasons: - It lets “outsiders” to the tech scene understand salary and levels at big companies. If you went to MIT you probably already have frat brothers/sorority sisters or an alumni network that consists of senior engineers at these big companies that know the promotion and compensation schemes well. But if you were an equally smart student who went to a non target school, many of th…

And to the "outsiders" from outside US, it should be written that 40-45 percent is taken away as taxes. So, if someone is making a total comp of 200k, it is basically 120k. This should be written in bold on this website.

Actually i would say, instead of having these charts which compare total comp, its better to have a survey on how much people save after rent, taxes, and basic living expenses (not including loans etc.)

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by Cyph0n »

CM30 wrote: post #71

It's an interesting site, and it seems like a nice way to compare salary and the possibilities for advancement at the companies included. However, am I the only one who kinda thought it'd give a bit of information about the responsibilities and required skillsets for each level? Personally, I've always found the hardest bit around shopping around for a job knowing exactly what they expect of a hire with X number of y…

At a large company like Google or FB, responsibilities for the same role may vary widely between orgs or even teams within the same org. So I don’t really think that you can define “responsibilities” in a way that allows you to compare between companies.

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by randyrand »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #54
robynsmith wrote: post #51

This makes salaries and compensation in Toronto seem outrageously low. Wow. Maybe I should be moving? Crazy. (Sadly, family is here, so moving is unlikely)

This is the usual reaction for those outside the Bay Area. Cost of living is very high in SF though, as are home prices.

worth noting that homes are expensive because compensation is high, not the other way around.

expensive housing does bring up low wages, but does not increase top level wages.

while savings rate stays the same despite CoL, total savings increases.

all else being equal, living in the bay is worth it despite the CoL for most developers

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by kasey_junk »

JimboOmega wrote: post #109
seattleeng wrote: post #10

Huge fan of this site, for two reasons: - It lets “outsiders” to the tech scene understand salary and levels at big companies. If you went to MIT you probably already have frat brothers/sorority sisters or an alumni network that consists of senior engineers at these big companies that know the promotion and compensation schemes well. But if you were an equally smart student who went to a non target school, many of th…

There are two problems with these: 1) If you aren't at one of these companies, it's not a fair comparison. It's really difficult to find a pre-IPO company who is going to compensate you like these, if for no other reason than that options are just not something you can easily stick a dollar value on. 2) It's kind of depressing. It's very easy to find people at similar experience levels as you making FAR more money (p…

Finance pays similar rates as this in lots of places (Chicago, New York, Austin, Houston, Dallas).

These are just jobs I know of in my network. I’ve heard that these pay band exists in other industries as well (consulting, specialist niche, etc).

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by jpatokal »

seattleeng wrote: post #24
lordnacho wrote: post #14

Can you really make a million bucks with just 10 years experience as a T7 at Google? What does a "Senior Staff SWE" do? Are there a lot of them?

Senior staff is something like <10% of all engineers (probably closer to 5%), the technical equivalent to a managerial “Director” title. Most engineers top out 2 promotions below.

Not quite: the technical equivalent to director is Principal SWE (T8).

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by amazon_tossaway »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #133
amazon_tossaway wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed the tight grouping as well. I'm in the very low end...of the job level below me.

L5? Which location? When did you join? Did you receiver refreshers? Your stock growth alone should push you into upper bands if you stayed long.

I've been here 4 years. I'm sorry, I'd rather not divulge much more than that.

Stock growth did result in a higher than expected TC, but the number of shares I have vesting will drop substantially over the next 2-3 years. If you're curious, every year I've been here my manager has given me great annual reviews. My base pay is substantially lower than the others on the list.

What are refreshers? Perhaps it's something I know by another term?

Re: Compare career levels across companies

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Post by domlebo70 »

What is it like working at Google? I work at a startup, and these numbers are insanity to me. I have 10 years experience in mostly Haskell & FP (and that's what I enjoy doing). What would I do with my skills at one of the bigger tech companies?
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