It is a really interesting shift from throwing spies out of the country to criminally indicting them. I wonder if we will see similar indictments brought against US agents in the future.
Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets
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Re: Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets
#52I have a serious question: why don't governments impose sanctions on other governments that hack them when there is sufficient proof?
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#53I have a serious question: why don't governments impose sanctions on other governments that hack them when there is sufficient proof?
Re: Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets
#54I have a serious question: why don't governments impose sanctions on other governments that hack them when there is sufficient proof?
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm aware of the difference between the Chinese government and the people of China in the same way I can distinguish between the people of Russia and their government. Same for Germany, the US or any other country. This race card play is diversionary.
Then you must also be aware that a very large amount of people are not aware of or don't care about the difference. The race blind card exists as well.
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#56I love reading about the Chinese efforts in developing a modern turbofan engine. For whatever reason, they just can't build a good medium- or high- bypass turbofan in-house. They're latest WS-20 is basically a clone of the CFM-56 and previously they spent decades developing the WS-6 and WS-10 that never met expectations. This is a big deal because the Comac 919 is ready to go but without a powerplant, they're having…
The Soviets also couldn't crack the jet engine but the English helpfully provided a Rolls-Royce engine for the Mig-15 just in time for the Korean War. "What fool will sell us his secrets?", asked Uncle Joe Stalin. "I will", said Sir Richard Stafford Cripps, CH, FRS.
Or perhaps not; either way, there could have been good reasons - see discussion here[1]
[1]https://www.quora.com/In-the-beginning-of-the-Cold-war-why-d...
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#57As an ethical Chinese myself, I'd like to reiterate that this type event is government-backed. And I am confident that HNers respect the boundary between Chinese people and the government. I do want to point out that general Chinese people in mainland China view these type of activities negatively as well. It should not be thought as the general people endorse such activities, they were mostly made unaware of these,…
Re: Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Stealing secrets from companies for commercial gain is just pathetic. Can't innovate, just hack it and steal it. Learn your history. Everyone does it. Europeans and Americans did it. Now the Chinese are doing. The only reason we're bitching is because now we're the targets instead of the thieves.
Do you have any links about about industrial scale hacking for commercial profit by those regions?
Everyone is standing on the shoulders of someone else.
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#59People need to get serious about protecting the privacy of their communications and data. Nobody cares until it is too late. Seems like this kind of event might be the incentive people need to make the extra effort to use products that encrypt their data in rest and in motion.
1: https://www.afr.com/technology/web/security/how-chinese-hack....
I made this comment earlier on a story about China POPs in Canada and USA nefariously re-routing traffic through China Telecom networks but that story was marked as a dupe by the time I made my comment so no discussion ensued.
Re: Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets
#60It is a really interesting shift from throwing spies out of the country to criminally indicting them. I wonder if we will see similar indictments brought against US agents in the future.
Nothing has shifted. Spies without diplomatic immunity have always been criminally prosecuted. Often they're held in prison for a while, then quietly repatriated in return for one of our spies or some other political concession.