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Invent better drugs?
Invent a better way of life so reality is the coolest thing possible.
There’s nothing other than reality. Drugs are part of reality. Have been for millenia.
When Adolescents Give Up Pot, Their Cognition Quickly Improves
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South Park put it quite well: "Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but… well, son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored. And it's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or being creative. If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything."
> pot makes you feel fine with being bored. How do you define "boredom"? According to Oxford Dictionary it means: "Feeling weary and impatient because one is unoccupied or lacks interest in one's current activity." [1] As far as my observations go this is particularly not fitting the perception experienced under the influence of weed. Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatie…
> Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatient and one finds the present activity overly interesting.
That's basically what he said. You're doing something that you'd ordinarily find boring, but now you don't feel bored.
Feeling bored is your mind telling you that you should be doing something else.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
> pot makes you feel fine with being bored. How do you define "boredom"? According to Oxford Dictionary it means: "Feeling weary and impatient because one is unoccupied or lacks interest in one's current activity." [1] As far as my observations go this is particularly not fitting the perception experienced under the influence of weed. Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatie…
> As far as my observations go this is particularly not fitting the perception experienced under the influence of weed. And that is the point of what they're saying. Being bored can be uncomfortable. One route out of that is to do something more interesting and productive, another is to alter your perception so that you are ok with it.
I think it depends on your definition of boredom. What does feeling bored mean to you?
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
South Park put it quite well: "Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but… well, son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored. And it's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or being creative. If you smoke pot you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything."
> pot makes you feel fine with being bored. How do you define "boredom"? According to Oxford Dictionary it means: "Feeling weary and impatient because one is unoccupied or lacks interest in one's current activity." [1] As far as my observations go this is particularly not fitting the perception experienced under the influence of weed. Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatie…
"Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatient and one finds the present activity overly interesting." - Exactly. It makes you ok with being bored rather than feeling weary and impatient and prone to go and do something instead of finding whatever banal activity you're doing overly interesting.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
> pot makes you feel fine with being bored. How do you define "boredom"? According to Oxford Dictionary it means: "Feeling weary and impatient because one is unoccupied or lacks interest in one's current activity." [1] As far as my observations go this is particularly not fitting the perception experienced under the influence of weed. Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatie…
> Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatient and one finds the present activity overly interesting. That's basically what he said. You're doing something that you'd ordinarily find boring, but now you don't feel bored. Feeling bored is your mind telling you that you should be doing something else.
And how is that bad?
Okay - so you normally would feel unpleasant. Now you don't because of weed. Of course you can argue weed is unhealthy - totally possible. But regarding the perceived state change. How is that causing harm? Because s/he's not going to become wealthy or "successful"?
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I definitely benefit from this. I find pot to be a great context switcher. Formerly after working on a problem for long hours, when I would go home I would still be immersed in the problem and unable to take my mind off it. Now when I come and have my things in order I warm up a vape bag and put on some jazz and am able to completely detach from work and really just enjoy my nights.
I have never understood this concept of detaching from work only to wake up the next day and having to face it. Why would you detach so much? Relaxing is overrated. It deprives you of powers you have developed or will develop, only to make you a more powerless person. And a powerless person can never and should never relax.
Haha, you are on some hyperbole stuff my dude. If you want to work super hard your whole life go for it. I am very satisfied working my 8 hours and then putting that work aside and enjoying my leisure time.
I still of course work extra some times or do productive things in my time off, but yeah unless there's a deadline I'm not gonna worry about some work problem on off hours when I can't even make progress until I get back to my work computer anyways.
Fear/worry/anxiety is the mind killer and often helps nothing.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
> pot makes you feel fine with being bored. How do you define "boredom"? According to Oxford Dictionary it means: "Feeling weary and impatient because one is unoccupied or lacks interest in one's current activity." [1] As far as my observations go this is particularly not fitting the perception experienced under the influence of weed. Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatie…
"Weed makes you feel - provided one responds positive to it - not weary, not impatient and one finds the present activity overly interesting." - Exactly. It makes you ok with being bored rather than feeling weary and impatient and prone to go and do something instead of finding whatever banal activity you're doing overly interesting.
What's wrong with "banal" activities?
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"more benign" !== "benign" Everyone I know that smokes daily (a lot of people) is less cognitive than those I know who don't smoke, in every arena except artistic pursuits. And not everyone reacts to weed the same way. I decided to quit when I recognized a lessened ability to solve complex coding questions the day after smoking.
> Everyone I know that smokes daily (a lot of people) is less cognitive than those I know who don't smoke Are you saying that the most "cognitive" smoker you know is less so than the least cognitive non-smoker?
Within the middle of the cognition bell curve, yes. Pattern recognition, organizational skills, general personal awareness and motivation are all higher in the non-smokers I know compared to the daily smokers.
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Invent better drugs?
Invent a better way of life so reality is the coolest thing possible.
Define "coolest".
If parts of reality are better than others this is probably due to internal responses. Every bit of sense-data modifies the internal brain state.
It follows that with sufficient control we can modify the brain, or the sense-data to create an experience akin to the coolest parts of whatever way of life we make.
Your considerations on whether synthetic reality is better, and whether all reality is effectively synthetic will then inform your conclusion on this meaning a modified view can always in theory beat reality.
In practice one will probably just chase a bigger high until the high is so risky that it eventually kills you.
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We have done much better. Look at tobacco usage. It hasn't plummeted because it was outlawed. I don't think we'd necessarily get the same plummet with marijuana, because the health story isn't quite as uniformly bad, and I get the sense that pot users don't get as acclimated as cigarette users, who seem to be smoking not to feel good but to avoid withdrawal. (Just on the drug's own terms, tobacco is a really bad deal…
> Look at tobacco usage. It hasn't plummeted because it was outlawed. Disagree to some extent. Outlawing of most indoor smoking has decreased usage significantly. Also disagree with reasons for smoking vs not since many do smoke recreationally to feel good as opposed to fear of withdrawal. Sure, most of the addicted are the latter, but the laws are there to target everyone.
It was regulated. It was not outlawed.
Nobody seems to be saying they want unregulated marijuana usage, so it seems comparable. (If nothing else, everyone agrees it should be taxed, and that is already a form of regulation.)