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Clojure at Netflix (2013) [slides]

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Re: Clojure at Netflix (2013) [slides]

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Post by systems »

rb808 wrote: post #4

Is Clojure still a thing? It seems to have fallen off my radar. Java seems resurgent after 8, even Scala seems to have lost momentum.

to talk about something new, you need to have something new to talk about

i dont think that scala or clojure have lost momentum i think both clojure and scala, stopped adding new features that are worthy of blogging about

you cant just add feature, just to keep people talking about you

clojure, is what it is, a nice language, a very smart leader (rick hickey), and a nice vibrant community (check #clojure on twitter)

the most talked about language nowadays is actually c++, and i think this mainly because they suddenly decided to have a very ambitious roadmap, and keep adding features, so there is always something new to talk about

does this make c++ better than clojure, well, i dont think they are even comparable, but it just make c++ more talked about than clojure

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Post by tribaal »

nerdponx wrote: post #3

What happened to Clojure? Was it just a fad, or are people still using it in their day jobs? Are people still hiring Clojure devs? If you write Clojure at work, are you happy with it?

We are a mostly Clojure shop and are very happy with it.

It's very expressive, functional, and allows you to tap into the Java ecosystem if you need to.

Might not be as hyped today as it was some years ago, but the language itself is still a joy to use.

Edit: SWE at exoscale.com here. We're hiring, also for full remote positions!

Re: Clojure at Netflix (2013) [slides]

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Post by agumonkey »

rb808 wrote: post #4

Is Clojure still a thing? It seems to have fallen off my radar. Java seems resurgent after 8, even Scala seems to have lost momentum.

It's a lot less trendy (no more R.Hickey church talks these days), but that's about it. Clojure is still lively, they're pushing a new release soon, they're exploring spec for contracts, typing, and a lot of other things it seems. There's also new nRepl.

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Post by mattdeboard »

systems wrote: post #11
rb808 wrote: post #4

Is Clojure still a thing? It seems to have fallen off my radar. Java seems resurgent after 8, even Scala seems to have lost momentum.

to talk about something new, you need to have something new to talk about i dont think that scala or clojure have lost momentum i think both clojure and scala, stopped adding new features that are worthy of blogging about you cant just add feature, just to keep people talking about you clojure, is what it is, a nice language, a very smart leader (rick hickey), and a nice vibrant community (check #clojure on twitter)…

Very well said!

Re: Clojure at Netflix (2013) [slides]

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Post by swah »

nerdponx wrote: post #3

What happened to Clojure? Was it just a fad, or are people still using it in their day jobs? Are people still hiring Clojure devs? If you write Clojure at work, are you happy with it?

While other posters comment that "Clojure still works", IIRC the "promise" was that Clojure/Lisp would be much, much more productive, and that claim I feel like must been disproved in daily work, otherwise Clojure would still a main topic around here.

Reminds me of the classic Erann Gatt post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2308370

(I loved to play with Elisp, Clojure, Lua, Factor, Ion, Ioke and hope dynamic languages become fashionable again someday...)

Re: Clojure at Netflix (2013) [slides]

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Post by jakebasile »

nerdponx wrote: post #3

What happened to Clojure? Was it just a fad, or are people still using it in their day jobs? Are people still hiring Clojure devs? If you write Clojure at work, are you happy with it?

The industry can rip Clojure from my cold, dead hands. It's still used in smaller teams at a lot of places including some of the BigCos. It's a simple joy to use and it is a damn shame it's not more popular than it is, but I don't think it is a fad.

Re: Clojure at Netflix (2013) [slides]

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Post by imglorp »

jcadam wrote: post #9
nerdponx wrote: post #3

What happened to Clojure? Was it just a fad, or are people still using it in their day jobs? Are people still hiring Clojure devs? If you write Clojure at work, are you happy with it?

Not a fad. Clojure 1.9 was just released. I can only use it on personal projects, as employers hiring for Clojure are few and far between.

One datapoint if it helps someone: these guys are full clojure. https://www.relaynetwork.com/careers/

Re: Clojure at Netflix (2013) [slides]

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Post by mecameron »

nerdponx wrote: post #3

What happened to Clojure? Was it just a fad, or are people still using it in their day jobs? Are people still hiring Clojure devs? If you write Clojure at work, are you happy with it?

We've been using Clojure for 3 years and ClojureScript for 1.5 years. We're actively converting more of our legacy codebase to Clojure/Script.

It's been a great choice for us and even the skeptics have become converts over time. I think it's a joy to work with and allows us to reason about our problems and solve them better than many alternatives.

Re: Clojure at Netflix (2013) [slides]

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Post by z3t4 »

nerdponx wrote: post #3

What happened to Clojure? Was it just a fad, or are people still using it in their day jobs? Are people still hiring Clojure devs? If you write Clojure at work, are you happy with it?

It's interesting that in the current state of software development, a programming language that have been stable for not even a year might be considered obsolete.
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