"All Mac portables with the Apple T2 Security Chip feature a hardware disconnect that ensures that the microphone is disabled whenever the lid is closed." It's interesting, I don't know if other brands do that?
Apple T2 Security Chip: Security Overview [pdf]
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Re: Apple T2 Security Chip: Security Overview [pdf]
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#73What happens if the T2 Chip fails? Is it possible to recover data on the disk? Or do we have to recover data from the last backup?
I'm just waiting for the Rossmann video when someone manages to spill some Coke on their T2 chip... Shit like this is why I will never buy another Apple product. With my encrypted drives I can pull them out, put them in another machine and decrypt them no issues.
Re: Apple T2 Security Chip: Security Overview [pdf]
#74What happens if the T2 Chip fails? Is it possible to recover data on the disk? Or do we have to recover data from the last backup?
I'm just waiting for the Rossmann video when someone manages to spill some Coke on their T2 chip... Shit like this is why I will never buy another Apple product. With my encrypted drives I can pull them out, put them in another machine and decrypt them no issues.
Shit like this is why I only buy Apple products.
The data I care about I have (encrypted) backups of. Not having backups and hoping that a specific hardware failure will not affect my ability to restore is equivalent to, well, just not having backups to begin with.
Re: Apple T2 Security Chip: Security Overview [pdf]
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
The mics are on the left hand side on that model. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Retina+Disp...
…that's what I said?
And someone felt the need to down vote a reply simply containing evidence that proves a commenter correct? I despair sometimes.
Re: Apple T2 Security Chip: Security Overview [pdf]
#77anyone who uses eGPUs (w/ Nvidia): whenever I setup my MBP shortly after buying (middle of this year), one of the steps required disabling Secure Boot and another security item via terminal. Is that still the case? Pretty sure my T2 chip is disabled due to this. Not a major loss if it must remain that way, but wasn't sure if it was just mitigating something that is no longer an issue.
Re: Apple T2 Security Chip: Security Overview [pdf]
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why you need security chip to ensure that?
So no malware can be installed to override a software based interlock. No malware can alter the contents of the T2 chip so code there cannot be changed, altered or mitigated.
I also wonder what implications on features like the mentioned microphone disconnect that'd have. My guess is that the T2 chip which also acts as audio controller, simply doesn't forward audio signals received from the microphone to macOS if the lid is closed.
Edit: Never mind. After reading further it becomes clear that it's really disconnected in hardware:
> This disconnect is implemented in hardware alone, and therefore > prevents any software, even with root or kernel privileges in macOS, and even > the software on the T2 chip, from engaging the microphone when the lid is > closed.
Re: Apple T2 Security Chip: Security Overview [pdf]
#79What happens if the T2 Chip fails? Is it possible to recover data on the disk? Or do we have to recover data from the last backup?
As an example, the current gen Macbook Pro has an SSD that is soldered to the motherboard (so you obviously can't remove it and cable it up to USB via an adapter to extract data). Apple installed a port on the motherboard that their techs can use to recover data if the motherboard fails. But sure enough it didn't work with my 11 month old Macbook Pro. Moral of the story... even if Apple has a mechanism for hardware f…
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
They say that "The camera is not disconnected in hardware because its field of view is completely obstructed with the lid closed."
I wonder how long it will be until someone manages to figure out how to use image processing to read the noise seen by the camera sensor while the lid is closed and turn it into audio. Kind of like this: http://news.mit.edu/2014/algorithm-recovers-speech-from-vibr...
In some of their experiments, the researchers used a high-speed camera that captured 2,000 to 6,000 frames per second..
I haven't checked, but I would be surprised if Apple uses cameras that are capable of that as normal user-facing webcams in their laptops ...
Recovering meaningful audio signal (which usually has lots of data above 1 kHz) from the <100 Hz sampling done by a camera seems difficult, Nyquist and all, right?