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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by matt4077 »

michaelmrose wrote: post #519
redeemedfadi wrote: post #403

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I think it's kind of cool. /dissenting-opinion

I'm presuming you viewed it on a mobile device. On my laptop running firefox I had this experience. My laptop is presently docked to the right of my monitor on my desk. When docked I use a keyboard and mouse with the actual laptop being slightly to the right using its touchpad is somewhat awkward but do-able. Space bar to go down doesn't work, page down/up doesn't work home end doesn't work arrow keys don't work. Try…

I've tried Firefox, Safari, and Chrome. And in every single one of them, scrolling works fine with spacebar, with the mouse, with Page up/Page down, and even that vim*-extension's 'd'.

I also enjoyed the effect. For anything I visit repeatedly, such as webmail or github, or news websites, I prefer a "lean" implementation. But a product page that I will visit may twice in its lifetime? Knock yourself out!

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by kllrnohj »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #512
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #466

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They call it an InfintyEdge display...

Ugh, I hate the way Dell lies! That's obviously not a metaphor. Also, whenever journalists and commentators write about Dell screens as being edge to edge, years before Apple, they're not lies, they're metaphors. It only becomes a literal statement that is obviously a lie, when Apple uses it. /s To everyone downvoting me above, you can disagree with the idea 'edge to edge' it's a proper metaphor to use for an iPad di…

No matter what it's not a metaphor. You might want to look up what that word actually means.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by sjroot »

theduro wrote: post #509

Why none of the top comments on a site called Hacker News are about the fact that this is far from anything that could be used for software development surprises me. Only feasible way to use this for dev would be using a cloud IDE, since I have no access to the OS or ability to install dependencies. I love the idea of the iPad becoming something that could replace a laptop, but for me I wait for the day when I can at…

I agree that Apple needs to improve developer experience on the iPad. However, regarding the file system access: Apple already has a Files app that handles this very well (introduced with iOS 11).

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by kllrnohj »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #466
kllrnohj wrote: post #434

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Dell doesn't call it edge-to-edge or all-screen in their marketing. Anyway looking at the dimensions of the iPad Pro 12.9" model it's 11.04 inches wide with a 12.9" 4:3 screen. The screen itself is going to be 10.32" wide as a result, putting the bezel at .36" or around 9mm. By comparison the XPS 13's bezel is 5.2mm.

They call it an InfintyEdge display...

Exactly, which is clearly a made up marketing term that has no established meaning just like Retina Display is.

all-screen and edge-to-edge, however, are not.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by AsyncAwait »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #466
kllrnohj wrote: post #434

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dell doesn't call it edge-to-edge or all-screen in their marketing. Anyway looking at the dimensions of the iPad Pro 12.9" model it's 11.04 inches wide with a 12.9" 4:3 screen. The screen itself is going to be 10.32" wide as a result, putting the bezel at .36" or around 9mm. By comparison the XPS 13's bezel is 5.2mm.

They call it an InfintyEdge display...

Just to be clear, "InfintyEdge" is a brand-name, like "Lighting connector", it is not a description of the display itself.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by matt4077 »

MR4D wrote: post #326
Jgrubb wrote: post #18

The person who decided to make this scroll sideways instead of down when you scroll down, and not to scroll sideways when you scroll sideways should be put in stocks in the town square.

Steve is rolling over in his grave on this.

I'm pretty sure that Apple was using parallax scrolling back in the days of Steve Jobs.

There's also a strange contradiction in these millions of people always complaining how Jobs would hate this or that, while essentially relying on the implied authority of the name!

If you all are capable of accurately predicting Steve Job's hypothetical opinions on all matters of design I wanna see some products you designed.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by macintux »

alexktz wrote: post #439
macintux wrote: post #159

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The key feature that drove me to buy the 12.9" iPad Pro last year was the ability to read and mark up PDFs without having to constantly zoom/move it around. Old eyes. I also use it to create routes for road trips for my Jeep club: it's really nice to have my GPS app and a satellite view side by side as I look for interesting back roads. In short: I bought a Ferrari and use it like a Civic.

Would you mind elaborating a little on your workflow / apps used here please?

There's really not much to it.

I keep computer science/math-related PDFs in Dropbox, copy them to GoodReader (I've started experimenting a bit with other PDF apps, but GoodReader has been my go to for years now), and occasionally use Apple Pencil to mark them up as I read them. I don't save them back to Dropbox for future review; GoodReader is effectively its own island in that regard.

For GPS, I use Gaia GPS to create routes, often with Apple Maps and/or Google Maps running in split screen.

If you have specific questions, I can address them, but none of it is particularly formal.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by woah »

tk75x wrote: post #486
roywiggins wrote: post #453

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It's the touchpad version of whether joystick-down means nose-down, or nose-up, in video games. Endless debates can be had!

Joystick down means nose up because it's simulating the yoke of your airplane in which you pull back (joystick down) in order to "pull up" the nose of the plane. The recent fad of reversing the touchpad scrolling direction is an attempt to simulate how we use our phones in which we tap the content on screen and drag it around to pull other content into view. Because the touchpad was invented to replace a mouse, I exp…

That may be because you use lower quality input devices. On Apple computers, the touchpad sensitivity tends to perfectly match the screen movement, making it very intuitive that pulling a screen down would pull it down. A manufacturer copying this with inferior hardware sensitivity and feel would indeed make it feel frustrating.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by gumby »

kanishkdudeja wrote: post #532
RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

I hope iOS 13 will have mouse support for the iPad Pro. Only being able to touch the screen while using the iPad Pro in laptop mode feels really limiting.

You can do mouselike pointer selection via the on-screen keyboard: a force press on iOS devices that support it, else two fingers together: your keyboard is now a mouse pad.

I"m not much of a mouse user so this is adequate for me.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by softawre »

reacharavindh wrote: post #32

I wish they made an iPhone SE as a miniature form of this iPad. square-ish edges (easier to hold), better & larger LCD displays within the same body size, and powerful internals. The new iphones are just too big for one-handed use. you want to type the name of the website on top bar of mobile Safari - bring the next hand out or drop your phone....

With you, that's why I switched to the new small Pixel (non-XL). I use my phone for a phone.

I can see if the phone is the only compute device you have, which is true for lots of people, then you might want to deal with the larger screen because you are watching videos on it and what not.

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