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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by elcomet »

spurcell93 wrote: post #506
playpause wrote: post #494

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Why do you prefer Lightning to USB-C? Just curious.

I prefer it because it feels way better. The snap, and the way the plug feels secure in the socket.... I had a nexus 6p for a year and the plug was so damn unreliable and wiggly. Bought multiple different types but they were all bad. That said, I haven't used any Apple devices with USBC and I would not be surprised if they felt much better.

For usb-c, this depends hugely.

I've had phones were the plug felt very weak in the socket, and devices with a very satisfying snap and a very strong connection.

This is to say that usb-c is not inherently bad, it depends a lot on the hardware (and I'm sure Apple will get it right)

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by ohitsdom »

spurcell93 wrote: post #506
playpause wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you prefer Lightning to USB-C? Just curious.

I prefer it because it feels way better. The snap, and the way the plug feels secure in the socket.... I had a nexus 6p for a year and the plug was so damn unreliable and wiggly. Bought multiple different types but they were all bad. That said, I haven't used any Apple devices with USBC and I would not be surprised if they felt much better.

I have an iPhone and a MacBook with USB-C ports, and my experience has been the exact opposite. The lightning port on my iPhone is really weak, all cords can way too easily lose a connection so my music stops or it stops charging. The USB-C on my laptop snaps in really nicely, I'm never worried about the cable not being fully connected.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by jonplackett »

SllX wrote: post #384
theshrike79 wrote: post #232

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MacBooks _will_ transition to Apple's own chips at some point. My guess is that the A14 or A15 generation will be fast and powerful enough to make the leap. This will be big especially if they can get major price or power usage advantages.

Arguably they are already powerful enough to make the leap in at least some cases, that said Apple does not push Macs in the same quantities as iOS devices as to justify wholly new silicon for the line. I have been in an argument with a friend for the past year or so about precisely when (or if) Apple will rip Intel out and use their own silicon. I think they will, but I'm going to try to present his argument to the…

totally agree. i still have a 2011 macbook pro upgraded with an ssd and a 2013 macbook pro. both almost indistinguishable performance wise from a brand new macbook I use at work. there's nothing it can do that these can't really, except touch ID, but then my apple watch unlocks my laptop now anyway.

i would add that the faster upgrade cycle, and therefore money worth spending on developing smartphones is also because people are used to carrier subsidy and spreading out the cost. so it's kind of a virtuous circle of investment that the pc market doesn't have.

makes you realise what a perfect storm iphone was - a massive and growing market of people paying through the nose, annually, for a crap product, just waiting for someone to take that money and invest it in something good.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by glhaynes »

saagarjha wrote: post #464
Ivoah wrote: post #355

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iOS still runs the darwin kernel. I'd be shocked if it didn't use swap.

It doesn't, I believe mostly for reasons of keeping apps from using large amounts of memory in general, and by helping keep write cycles to a minimum.

I've always figured it had most to do with keeping responsiveness high and predictable.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

theduro wrote: post #509

Why none of the top comments on a site called Hacker News are about the fact that this is far from anything that could be used for software development surprises me. Only feasible way to use this for dev would be using a cloud IDE, since I have no access to the OS or ability to install dependencies. I love the idea of the iPad becoming something that could replace a laptop, but for me I wait for the day when I can at…

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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by akulbe »

jrs95 wrote: post #504
RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

Seems like it'll be really difficult for them to ever make the iPad suitable for software development while also preventing users from installing software except through the app store. But if they ever figure that out I'll probably replace my laptop with an iPad.

I wish they'd make the iPad more development-friendly. I don't know exactly what that looks like… but if they did that, I'd use it as a daily driver in a heartbeat.

So so so done with Apple laptops, though. It seems like the butterfly keyboards are here to stay, and they're just plain awful.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by singularity2001 »

what is the max resolution of the external display?

also in the video editing app shown in the keynote the external display hides the control elements, which is very nice. exposed api, or internal apple magic?

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by singularity2001 »

handwriting recognition

Is anyone using an iPad pro missing in-place handwriting recognition? as in the old Samsung tablets where you could annotate and write everywhere?

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by simonh »

basch wrote: post #469
RubberShoes wrote: post #443

To me, the shift to USB-C signifies a fundamental change in how Apple is approaching the iPad and computing going forward. Those stupid "what's a computer" ads make a little more sense. With USB-C, developers will support whatever I/O standards they need to in iOS, and the ecosystem of monitors, keyboards, and peripherals we all bought for our laptops/desktops will now begin to work with iOS too. This feature alone g…

A shift from lightning to usb c is apple losing because they didnt donate their port to the spec. They could have "invented" usb c. I understand why they didnt, but I still prefer lightning to usbc. They are doing this before the EU makes them do it. What apple did do was force the market to adapt to a plug that can go in both directions. And they thinned out the plug quite nicely, it never needed to be so thick.

They may not have invented it, but 18 of the engineers on the certification work for Apple and they were the first laptop manufacturer to announce support. They’ve pushed heavily and quickly into USB-C so I really don’t see any signs of coercion.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by MontagFTB »

kllrnohj wrote: post #440
MontagFTB wrote: post #367

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The demo file shown at the event was 12000x12000, 127 layers. It was 3GB on disk, 5GB fully loaded into memory. Double-tap to zoom was happening at 120Hz, fully animated, to anywhere within the document. I realize I'm biased, but on such a machine, the observed performance is anything but rudimentary.

It's not impressive if it's not doing it with ideal sharpness in real-time, which it wasn't. Tiled zooming into arbitrarily large images is otherwise rather easy to do. Go plop the largest image you can find onto your nearest Android phone and it'll zoom & pan that image at 60fps with nary a stutter or issue. It will take a while for it to re-snap the sharpness as you zoom in, though, but so was the iPad Pro. How fas…

> It's not impressive if it's not doing it with ideal sharpness in real-time, which it wasn't.

Do you have evidence backing up this claim?

> Go plop the largest image you can find onto your nearest Android phone and it'll zoom & pan that image at 60fps with nary a stutter or issue

I've never seen an Android device composite, pan, and zoom a multi-layer gigapixel image with the same performance I saw today. If you have a video you could share, I'd be interested to see it.

> It will take a while for it to re-snap the sharpness as you zoom in

To let you in a bit, Photoshop was doing the recomposition of the destination region in real-time. And it's not just a single layer that's on display there, but hundreds, composited together while the user zooms in and out on varying regions of the document.

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