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Re: Micro.blog

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Post by jeena »

grey-area wrote: post #103

This is really interesting as a tech project, but I do think this is going to be hard to make money from. App.net tried almost exactly the same thing, to the same audience (the twitter/fb diaspora), and as you can see from the comments below most developers are not going to pay good money to broadcast their thoughts, which they rightly see as worth very little. There is a two sided market for microblogs like twitter:…

That would all be true if the main goal was to maximize the income through growth, which as far as I understand it, it isn't.

Re: Micro.blog

#132

Post by chrisaldrich »

pmontra wrote: post #59

I read that this is federated, but how do I download the software to run my own server? I looked at the FAQ and help and found nothing about it.

It's "federated" in that it runs on simple web standards and protocols. You can use almost any CMS or platform out there and pipe your RSS,ATOM,JSON, or other feeds into it. If your site supports the Webmention protocol, then any comments made by other micro.blog users will come back to your original post where you can choose to display them (or not). https://indieweb.org/Micro.blog may give you some additional ideas/help.

Re: Micro.blog

#133

Post by chrisaldrich »

ericintheloft2 wrote: post #88

Neat thing. Question: Why not have it publically open and free, but pay to post? Or at least have some of it open, like a limit number of post visible or something like that - for free. Because right now, as a visitor, I'm far from sure I want to use this at all, I know too little about what it's like to actually use it.

You can view their discover timeline (as well as some others) at https://micro.blog/discover to get an idea of the posts and community.

Re: Micro.blog

#134

Post by aklemm »

Well, I know I want something like this, so I applaud the efforts! I've been thinking about keeping my Facebook account in order to maintain contacts and event notifications, but stop all posting of original content and instead just link to blog entries. It will be important to have a good place to blog, but I'm leaning toward self-hosting a static blog.

Re: Micro.blog

#136

Post by rhacker »

aklemm wrote: post #134

Well, I know I want something like this, so I applaud the efforts! I've been thinking about keeping my Facebook account in order to maintain contacts and event notifications, but stop all posting of original content and instead just link to blog entries. It will be important to have a good place to blog, but I'm leaning toward self-hosting a static blog.

I hope more people do this. By having everyone post content on their own domains, it drastically increases SEO for them instead of piling it on to FB and other platforms. These social platforms are nothing more than SEO aggregators, they are essentially stealing profit from people.

Re: Micro.blog

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Post by skybrian »

I might pay the $5/month to a host a blog there, but I'm unwilling to require people who just want to comment on my blog to pay $5/month as well (or set up their own blog). There should be a way to add a response to a blog entry for free, without setting anything up. Maybe blog owner should have to approve them or something?

Re: Micro.blog

#138

Post by int_19h »

LaGrange wrote: post #44
int_19h wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The short format also encouraged better structuring of arguments Did it? I feel like it rather encouraged going for the shortest available arguments. Which tend to be the ones low on data, and high on emotion - it's much easier to pack an emotional appeal in a few words.

> Did it? Yes. People such as Alexandra Erin or Flavia Dzodan regularly provide well-informed, structured and readable threads, to say nothing of all the scientists active on Twitter. Shitposting accounts are only a part, large but rather boring, of the wider Twitter ecosystem. > I feel like it rather encouraged going for the shortest available arguments. Which tend to be the ones low on data, This is presumptuous. T…

> Yes. People such as Alexandra Erin or Flavia Dzodan regularly provide well-informed, structured and readable threads, to say nothing of all the scientists active on Twitter.

Your claim that I disputed was that Twitter encourages such content. I'm not saying that it doesn't have any good stuff - but you need to compare it to other, more verbose mediums to make a claim that the brevity that Twitter rules impose actually result in more such content being published, and that its quality is better. The first thing that comes to my mind in this context is Usenet, and I don't think Twitter compares favorably to that.

> This is presumptuous. There is nothing stopping you from providing data and sources on Twitter.

This is observational. And of course there's nothing stopping you from it. But the medium is not optimized for it, and that discourages it in practice. Again, I'm not claiming that Twitter doesn't have data and sources - only that it has less than more verbose mediums.

Re: Micro.blog

#139

Post by grey-area »

jeena wrote: post #131
grey-area wrote: post #103

This is really interesting as a tech project, but I do think this is going to be hard to make money from. App.net tried almost exactly the same thing, to the same audience (the twitter/fb diaspora), and as you can see from the comments below most developers are not going to pay good money to broadcast their thoughts, which they rightly see as worth very little. There is a two sided market for microblogs like twitter:…

That would all be true if the main goal was to maximize the income through growth, which as far as I understand it, it isn't.

We desperately need alternative social networks, but there’s a certain minimum income required to host them I just don’t think you’d reach with consumers. App.net tried almost exactly the same thing in 2012:

https://www.socialmediatoday.com/content/app-dot-net-its-not...

I agree with the author that ads and nazis are the problem, but you need a viable business to compete with free (ad driven). Selling microblog hosting to consumers is not that.

Re: Micro.blog

#140

Post by ekke »

Hm, re: "ads are everywhere" - is it just me, or are two of the three sample posts in the screenshot content-based ads?

First for the novel Cibola Burn, and third for the app Halide.. the middle post seemingly is a reply to an ad of some book series as well :) Or "influencer" paid content != ads?

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