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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by TylerE »

paulie_a wrote: post #304
calgoo wrote: post #123

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Am I the only one who actually like to have an edge on my devices so they dont break by looking at them? At least if there is a metal edge it can take some of the force and you have a chance of not breaking the screen. I dont understand why metal is bad and glass is somehow good? Also, I need to grab my ipad, move it around, spin it, grab it with the other hand etc. I see the edges / bezel's as very useful in these c…

I hate the bezelless trend. And quite frankly I hate the trend of making devices thin. Now I just need to add depth so I can hold it and use it comfortably without worries about dropping the damn thing.

Can't you solve both problems by just using a case?

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by emdowling »

eropple wrote: post #49
GiorgioG wrote: post #27

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What's this missing besides the 'select' button: https://steelseries.com/gaming-controllers/nimbus

To be frank? An Apple logo. Third-party stuff isn't sufficiently sticky. If Apple wants games on their platform, they need their own controller. It might even be best if it comes in the box. I don't, however, think they really care that much.

It absolutely needs to come in the box for it to be effective. You need to be able to rely on 100% of your customer base having the hardware required to play it.

The thought that they don't care that much is really strange, because every single keynote that I can remember has included game demos. They always use game demos, from AAA game developers like Epic, to come out and show off the latest capabilities. They could take a sizeable chunk of PS4 and Xbox One customers very easily - fund the development of some genuinely AAA, exclusive games, bundle the controller in the box and the thing would sell like hotcakes. Nintendo is somewhat safe because their IP is much more valuable than Xbox or Sony, who basically offer the same games with a few notable exceptions.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by SllX »

georgeecollins wrote: post #241
SllX wrote: post #24

From the keynote, Cook claimed the new A12X Bionic[1] is faster than 92% of portable PCs[2] (in English, laptops, Surfaces) sold in the past year, including some i7 models. - 8 core CPU (4 low and 4 high power cores) - 7 core GPU - HEVC encoding/decoding - Neural Engine (they haven't made any comparisons to the A12 sans X neural engine, so at this point I think it's the same) - Audio DSP, Storage controller, Image Si…

Yet 90% of the apps that people will use on it are optimized for a phone with lower specs. If I use a laptop with GPU I know I am going to use games or productivity apps (Photoshop, modeling software) that uses the available computing power. With an iPad I am not so sure.

Checkout the Photoshop on iPad Pro demo from the Keynote then. Apparently AutoCAD is also being ported to iOS. The difference in available computing power is greatly diminished to the point that the real advantages Macs have nowadays is in access to vaster stores of RAM, Dev Tools, and Darwin.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by woolvalley »

izacus wrote: post #36
emdowling wrote: post #6

I just wish Apple would put the internals of the iPad Pro into the Apple TV and bundle it with a decent controller. The gaming potential is massive, and they even compared it to the Xbox One during the keynote. They are squandering a massive market opportunity - I just can't work out why.

Here's the thing - it's not the hardware. iPad can be hugely powerful and it won't get good games until those games start paying revenue. As long as 4,99$ is the standard price for a game, you can't expect studios to just port the games for potential loss. Especially since iPad with its 799$+ price tag isn't really an affordable device in comparison to game consoles. Compare this with Nintendo Switch - it's significa…

The switch does $5 games although

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by MR4D »

Jgrubb wrote: post #18

The person who decided to make this scroll sideways instead of down when you scroll down, and not to scroll sideways when you scroll sideways should be put in stocks in the town square.

Steve is rolling over in his grave on this.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by ngngngng »

aero142 wrote: post #319
slg wrote: post #313

Who are the people out there that use the rear facing camera of a 13 inch tablet enough to justify that camera bump? It isn't unusual for Apple to make unpopular design choices, but you at least can usually see the logic in their decisions. I can't fathom the reasons behind this one.

By my count, everyone's parents over the age of 50.

My mom still carries around a terrible 10 year old point and shoot because I can't convince her that her iphone camera is far superior.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by jordache »

I see it still has the stupid iOS home page where there are just 5 icons spread out horizontally when the iPad is in landscape orientation.

The new apple pencil is interesting. Now without the seamless round body, I wonder if the tip will wear out faster, given user will now always hold it the same way.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by mohammedbin »

MR4D wrote: post #326
Jgrubb wrote: post #18

The person who decided to make this scroll sideways instead of down when you scroll down, and not to scroll sideways when you scroll sideways should be put in stocks in the town square.

Steve is rolling over in his grave on this.

*scrolling

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

mLuby wrote: post #302
IkmoIkmo wrote: post #279

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You don't seem to understand what a metaphor means. If I say it's fast as lightning, I'm not saying it's exactly that fast. It's a metaphor for fast. The fact the speed of lightning is measurable and 'as concrete as it gets' doesn't change the fact that people use it as a metaphor. You may feel the use of 'edge to edge' is an inappropriate metaphor that's fine, not every metaphor is fitting and, hell I'd even agree w…

Agreed that 'fast as lightning' rarely refers to the literal speed of electricity in atmosphere; it's commonly understood to mean 'very fast'. However, there is no such common understanding of the phrase 'edge to edge' meaning almost edge to edge. Edge to edge in English means it goes from the edge of one side to the edge of the other, literally. It's not a metaphor. Only Jobs had a powerful enough reality warp to ma…

You're being silly, it is a metaphor and it's been used before Apple ran with it. The Dell XPS was often said to have an edge to edge display. [0] It didn't, literally, the bezels are similar to this ipad.

Because in the context of displays there isn't really any big consumer product out there that actually has no bezel at all. Rather you have all these nearly edge to edge displays. And we talk about them as being edge to edge, razor thin bezels etc. There's no consumer out there who thinks he's getting a display without bezels. Everyone gets the metaphor.

> It's not a metaphor.

If you don't think it's a metaphor you'd have to believe that Apple truly thinks this device has no bezels, that consumers typically think it has no bezels, that journalists using these descriptions think they have no bezels, because they all take 'edge to edge' as being literal, rather than metaphorical. And that's simply not true. It is a metaphor, whether you (or I) think it's an appropriate one or not.

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2015/10/8/9476199/dell-xps-15-2015-...

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